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Re: Cocoa Books


  • Subject: Re: Cocoa Books
  • From: Yahoo <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 14:53:33 +0200


On 11 apr 2006, at 01.19, Jonathan wrote:

Hi--

So I went to O’Reilly and got the online version of Hillegass.

Here’s from his introduction:

“This book is written for programmers who already know some C programming
and something about objects”.


A bit later:

“Objective-C is a simple and elegant extension to C, and mastering it will
take about two hours -- if you already know C and an object-oriented
language like Java or C++”.



About two years ago I came up with the idea to learn some Obj-C to use it with Cocoa-stuff. The hype of Cocoa in the Mac-universe took a grip on me. I came in from an angle were I didn't know much of anything about programming. Aside from a little Basic experience, ehh must be 20 years from now, on a C-64 I had no experience at all.


So, I went to the book store and bought "Learning Cocoa with Objective-C" (O'Rielly) and a plain C book. There were some people recommending learning C first. Or if it was in the Cocoa book or perhaps both? Anyway, after struggling a bit I ended up with the conclusion that the easiest way for me to move on would be to take an introductory course of C and concentrate on that before opening the Cocoa book again. For me this was a wise decision but we all come from different backgrounds. Someone else might handle Obj-C right away.

The Cocoa/Obj-C book and other Cocoa/Obj-C stuff I have read to learn more about Obj-C and Cocoa, tend to skip the basic C-stuff. C books and such is often much better at showing the details and tend to be careful to not miss anything of the essentials. It would be possible to write an Obj-C book in this way as well of course and it might already have been done? I'm afraid that in such a book there wouldn't be much room to show the framework specific stuff in a normally sized book.

How have it turned out? Recently I came to a point were I think the wisest decision to really learn to program is to get an ordinary education. So I applied and will begin in a couple of months. Its a five year computer-engineer course at the technical university here in Stockholm.

John Stalberg

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