Re: Cocoa Books
Re: Cocoa Books
- Subject: Re: Cocoa Books
- From: Kenny Leung <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 08:34:43 -0700
I commend your commitment to learning. Along those lines, I think the
best route to writing good software is to know a lot about hardware.
I recommend taking all the digital logic and system architecture
courses available.
-Kenny
On Apr 11, 2006, at 5:53 AM, Yahoo wrote:
On 11 apr 2006, at 01.19, Jonathan wrote:
Hi--
So I went to O’Reilly and got the online version of Hillegass.
Here’s from his introduction:
“This book is written for programmers who already know some C
programming
and something about objects”.
A bit later:
“Objective-C is a simple and elegant extension to C, and mastering
it will
take about two hours -- if you already know C and an object-oriented
language like Java or C++”.
About two years ago I came up with the idea to learn some Obj-C to
use it with Cocoa-stuff. The hype of Cocoa in the Mac-universe took
a grip on me. I came in from an angle were I didn't know much of
anything about programming. Aside from a little Basic experience,
ehh must be 20 years from now, on a C-64 I had no experience at all.
So, I went to the book store and bought "Learning Cocoa with
Objective-C" (O'Rielly) and a plain C book. There were some people
recommending learning C first. Or if it was in the Cocoa book or
perhaps both? Anyway, after struggling a bit I ended up with the
conclusion that the easiest way for me to move on would be to take
an introductory course of C and concentrate on that before opening
the Cocoa book again. For me this was a wise decision but we all
come from different backgrounds. Someone else might handle Obj-C
right away.
The Cocoa/Obj-C book and other Cocoa/Obj-C stuff I have read to
learn more about Obj-C and Cocoa, tend to skip the basic C-stuff. C
books and such is often much better at showing the details and tend
to be careful to not miss anything of the essentials. It would be
possible to write an Obj-C book in this way as well of course and
it might already have been done? I'm afraid that in such a book
there wouldn't be much room to show the framework specific stuff in
a normally sized book.
How have it turned out? Recently I came to a point were I think the
wisest decision to really learn to program is to get an ordinary
education. So I applied and will begin in a couple of months. Its a
five year computer-engineer course at the technical university here
in Stockholm.
John Stalberg _______________________________________________
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