Re: Super-sized NSDrawer
Re: Super-sized NSDrawer
- Subject: Re: Super-sized NSDrawer
- From: René v Amerongen <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 12:53:28 +0200
The same for me, they are not dead, but they are not needed for each
app. Like every Interface element they should be used with care.
I/we only use them in two app's. One app with two different layouts
in our document control app for info about the flow behind a doc and
who should receive that doc, who did some audit, and whatever more.
Kind of meta data of the doc that the user don't need all the time.
No need == no space. Easy to open/close. Works great. Specially with
the wide screen mac's. Don't do any fancy things with it. Otherwise I
would suggest create a separate UI element.
René
Op 23-jun-2007, om 9:50 heeft Mike Abdullah het volgende geschreven:
I would argue that drawers are not dead yet and are definitely
relevant for use today and in the future. The trouble is simply
that many apps (including Apple's!) have abused them.
The request for a larger-than-the-window drawer does seem to be
part of this. If the OP could explain their desire for such a
drawer I'm sure a better solution can be found. Indeed, a larger
drawer actually conflicts massively with the way drawers are
implemented. Upon closing the drawer, the user would actually see
part of it appearing momentarily on the other side of the application!
Please, only use a drawer in cases where it supplies auxiliary
tools and controls. The drawer should be freely close-able without
affecting the core functionality of the app. I think a great
example is the drawer in the object animations Inspector in
Keynote. Many users never need it and so never open it. At the
other end of the scale we have the drawer used in Mail in 10.3
which was frankly appalling.
Mike.
On 23 Jun 2007, at 08:25, Joe Goh wrote:
On 6/23/07, Sam Stigler <email@hidden> wrote:
OmniOutliner? iCal? Not that I don't agree with you that they're
not as visually appealing as source lists (not by a long shot), but
they're not dead yet.
Ok, they're not dead, but its getting real close. Out of the 126
applications I have in /Applications, i've found only 4 applications
(that I use regularly) that still use drawers as part of their main
user interface.
From the sound of it, Glen is about to start development of a new
app,
and unless there's a really specific need for it, I would advise to
stay away from drawers.
With so many recent switchers (myself included) coming on board, we
may start to see users who have no idea what drawers are, and how
they're supposed to interact with them.
Joe Goh
FunkeeMonk Technology
http://www.funkeemonk.com/
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