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Re: "Select All" first in table view
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Re: "Select All" first in table view


  • Subject: Re: "Select All" first in table view
  • From: "I. Savant" <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 11:05:44 -0400

On 5/10/07, Sam Stigler <email@hidden> wrote:
Why not just forget having the special row in the table, and instead have a
"Select All" menu item or toolbar item, etc.?  I mean, a table is meant to
display data, not act as some kind of custom button.  If you use it as that,
you're more likely to confuse your users than anything else.

I agree that this is an area of contention to some (I can't say I've ever personally used an "All" row ... ever ...), but ...

See http://developer.apple.com/documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/OSXHIGuidelines/XHIGIntro/chapter_1_section_1.html for
reasons why it's a good idea to stick to Apple's Human Interface Guidelines,
and the "List Views" section at
http://developer.apple.com/documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/OSXHIGuidelines/XHIGControls/chapter_18_section_7.html for
exactly what the Guidelines say about table views.

... citing the HIG(uidelines) as *the* reason why you shouldn't do it doesn't make much sense. For one, they're guidelines and aren't always right. For another, Apple, who wrote the guidelines, use the "All" approach in table views in iTunes. In that case, it's hard to imagine how they'd have done it more cleanly (because they're not necessarily source lists, there's more than one, and they're all likely to have many items in them) to make it easier to distinguish "one or more selected but not all" and "all selected".

 So, in short, the guidelines aren't perfect. :-)

--
I.S.
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