Re: Animated toolbar
Re: Animated toolbar
- Subject: Re: Animated toolbar
- From: Robert Marini <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 03:00:56 -0500
In short, applications that are ported to the platform with the
express intent of maintaining their look and feel from Windows do
little more than treat OS X users as second-class citizens. No one
likes paying money for that feeling so at the end of the day, I doubt
the port will see even remote success unless you re-evaluate how the
app will fit in.
And if you can reproduce the Dock in under 24 hours you will be doing
something that a large number of seasoned Mac developers would be
unable to do (yes, you could probably get it kind of, sort of working
but even worse than creating a control that user's don't expect is
creating a control so similar to a system element that behaves even
slightly differently).
-rob.
On Feb 7, 2009, at 2:34 AM, Graham Cox wrote:
On 7 Feb 2009, at 8:43 am, Christian Graus wrote:
In my app, I want a toolbar like the one at the bottom of OSX, with
icons
that resize as I move the mouse over them. I want the whole
toolbar to hide
and to scroll up into view from the bottom of my window when I move
my mouse
over the little edge that would be always visibl
You need to have a serious heart-to-heart with your boss and rethink
this. If you persist, your app is going to suck on Mac, period. If
your boss isn't into aesthetics but at least can understand his
"bottom line" than at least he should get sucky App == poor sales.
Consider this: many users, myself included, place their system dock
at the bottom of their screen, and set it to auto-hide. Even if you
violate the Mac user experience by pushing your window right out to
the screen edges like a Windows app, every time they mouse down to
the bottom they are going to get two docks - yours and the system
one on top (the system dock is designed to come up on top of all
apps). Your own dock is just not going to be clickable or even
easily readable. If they have their dock set to be always visible,
and your window is sized to allow for the dock, the 'target' for
them to get your dock showing is going to be, what, 2 pixels wide?
Recipe for constant irritation and frustration.
There is a built-in toolbar system that fits the Mac user experience
- NSToolbar. You'd be far better off seeing if that will fit your
needs, even if it doesn't necessarily "look the same" as the Windows
version (by the way, that's another thing bosses often insist on,
not appearing to realise that no 'real world' user ever uses their
app side-by-side on two different platforms, so they won't see or
care about these differences - they will, on the other hand, very
much care that the app is a badly ported Windows app that doesn't
fit in with all their others).
--Graham
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