Re: Animated toolbar
Re: Animated toolbar
- Subject: Re: Animated toolbar
- From: Christian Graus <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 21:11:48 +1100
Well, our prospective Mac users are all in a niche market, they have all
seen the marketing for our windows version, and most of them are actually
*using* our windows version. So, they WILL be aware of our windows version,
they ARE using the Windows version and waiting for the Mac version, and when
the Mac version comes, they WILL judge it against the Windows version.
Having said that, I agreed with you ( and even said on this thread before
you even replied ) that I've always been one to take care that we don't
blindly copy the windows app, or that we fail to consider the ways in which
we've made our windows UI in line with what a windows user expects, and that
we now do the same for Mac users ( FWIW, I use my Mac whenever I can help
it, so I am getting a decent idea of how Mac UI tends to work ). I'm just
saying, that while I have already agreed that we clearly can't keep this
toolbar ( I already said that ), I don't see us going from a cool UI on
Windows to a bog standard UI on Mac. We're going to have to think of a way
to make our toolbar both useful, intuitive to a Mac user, AND something
slicker than a standard toolbar.
I made reference to Lotus Notes somewhere above, they made the mistake of
designing their own UI for no good reason, and making it the same across
platforms. I agree, as a rule, a Mac user does not care what my Windows
version looks like, they just want it to be easy to use on a Mac. Our
windows users LOVE our non standard UI, what we need to do, is figure out
how to translate that best onto the Mac.
I think we're both trying to say roughly the same thing, the gap being that
perhaps you don't understand the nature of the product/market I am working
into ( and why would you, I've not said anything about it before ).
Certainly, your core points, I agree with 200%. Our Mac users must not
feel they got a hand off port of a Windows version. They must get something
that works in the ways they expect it to. But, part of that, part of
showing them we're serious about them as Mac users, in the context of our
product, and their knowledge of it, is to go beyond standard UI to make our
app more visually appealing, without sacrificing usability. That's just the
nature of our product.
Christian
On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 8:53 PM, Graham Cox <email@hidden> wrote:
>
> On 7 Feb 2009, at 8:46 pm, Christian Graus wrote:
>
> I don't see us using a standard toolbar, our big fear will be that we
>> don't want to lose the pizzaz we have under Windows and have a bog standard
>> looking Mac app, it will just look like a poor cousin of our windows app
>> then.
>>
>
>
> It. Doesn't. Matter.
>
> Your users are not judging the app against your Windows version, they are
> judging it against all their other Mac apps. You are not your users, and
> your "big fear" is based on a misplaced perspective, that of the app's
> developers.
>
> Pizazz is all very well but if it actually makes the app less usable, less
> standard and just plain weird to use, your users will judge the app
> negatively.
>
> --Graham
>
>
>
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