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Re: After Hillegass
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Re: After Hillegass


  • Subject: Re: After Hillegass
  • From: Chunk 1978 <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 11:29:06 -0500

"Programming In Objective-C 2.0" was just published this year
(2009)... i just got my copy from Amazon... lots of stuff in this
book... certainly can't hurt:
http://www.amazon.ca/gp/reader/0321566157/ref=sib_dp_pt#reader-link

On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 2:14 AM, Quincey Morris
<email@hidden> wrote:
> On Jan 17, 2009, at 22:18, Brian Bruinewoud wrote:
>
>> Secondly: I've read the 3rd edition of Hillegass and it has gotten me a
>> fair way. What book should I move to next?
>>
>> I searched the archives and the latest dated e-mails I could find were
>> from 2006 and mentioned a "Cheeseman" book, is this the "Cocoa Recipes for
>> Mac OS X"? That book is from 2002 is there a more up to date or better
>> choice?
>
> I'd suggest you start writing applications now and not look for more books
> until you know what you're looking for (i.e. until you're stuck). If you're
> desperate to read, read more of Apple's documentation.
>
>> To help with your suggestions:
>> I think I got the hang of Objective-C as a language and probably don't
>> need a book for that (though feel free to suggest).
>> When I open an example project, I'm not quite sure how to start reading it
>> to understand it.
>
> The examples are more use when you have a question you need to find the
> answer for. How about you pick one whose functionality interests you and
> which sort of sounds not incredibly daunting, and first try to write it
> yourself without looking at the code in the example project? Or something
> else whose functionality has some attraction for you personally.
>
> (I'm begging you not to start a project that manages bank account
> transactions or controls iTunes. We've had so many of those on this list in
> the last few months that it would nice to see questions about something
> else. :) )
>
>> When I read the documentation for a class, I'm not quite sure how to read
>> them (they tell me what all the functions are but don't give much indication
>> of how to use them or why, what are the dependencies of one on the other,
>> etc).
>
> In the box at the top of the document, there's often a "companion guide"
> list. Read those first.
>
> A few of the companion guides are pretty much essential reading. Memory
> management, design patterns, collections, events, windows, views, drawing
> and documents are ones you should read multiple times. Objective-C language,
> Objective-C runtime, garbage collection, KVO and KVC are also important,
> though more technical.
>
> (I'm also begging you to stay away from Core Data until you have a lot of
> the other basics well in hand, in particular KVO and bindings. By all means
> do the Core Data tutorial in the documentation to see what it's like, but
> Core Data is definitely the deep end of the pool.)
>
> FWIW
>
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