Re: Curious about SSH --> actually about: Keychain --> (passive aggressive)
Re: Curious about SSH --> actually about: Keychain --> (passive aggressive)
- Subject: Re: Curious about SSH --> actually about: Keychain --> (passive aggressive)
- From: Stuart Malin <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 08:32:49 -0400
On Oct 18, 2009, at 11:13 PM, Brent Smith wrote:
thanks for the help all.
Theres no need to be passive aggressive
What you perceived as "passive aggressive" is... I.S.'s style, which,
if you were a regular reader of the list, you'd be familiar with; a
style that (I suspect) ameliorates his frustration and enables him to
answer yet-once-again a query that should never have been posted, and
do so with useful guidance, all in the hopes (I further suspect) that
if others would read, the list would become a place of ever-more
streamlined activity.
There are many very smart and experienced programmers on this list who
take much of their valuable time to answer posts. With so much good
information flowing, a non-expert programmer can learn much by reading
responses to other people's posts -- this is certainly the case for me.
Alas, it seems that many people don't read the list actively, and
then, when they have a question, they post as if their circumstance
are unique. Yet, most often such is not the case, the issue been dealt
with before, or an answer is readily available.
There have been endless replies made to posters of suggesting that
they first do a search, that the pose their problem informatively, and
that they explain what they have tried (when it is a coding
problem)... yet over and over people come to the list and ask
malformed or trivial questions as if they have never seen any of this
contextualizing guidance. The smart folks on the list can't keep
answering such questions over and over - it is much too tedious (or so
I suspect, as I am not one of them). Continuing to answer such
questions directly encourages laziness, vitiates the quality of the
list, and would drive expertise away, and so to counteract such, I.S.
jumps in and short circuits such queries, counseling the poster to do
a little bit of self-help work first.
Should one make a reasonable effort to answer a question or solve a
problem, but still come up short, then one is welcome to post to the
list, and preferably should do so cognizant of the guidance that has
over-and-over been posted here about how to frame a query, so that the
experienced can quickly determine if they are knowledgeable in the
problem domain, zero in on the actual problem, and provide an
actionable response, all in an expedient and time-effective manner.
These folks can be quite compassionate: I have on more than one
occasion asked a bumble-headed question -- after all, stupidity and
blindness happen; but I do try and frame my questions well and explain
what I've tried; when I do so, I receive patient and informative
responses sans sarcasm.
The smart people here are here of their own volition and desire to
help -- let's not abuse them.
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