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Re: Flatbed scanners vs Pro Photo CDs
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Re: Flatbed scanners vs Pro Photo CDs


  • Subject: Re: Flatbed scanners vs Pro Photo CDs
  • From: Jan Steinman <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 09:12:43 -0800

email@hidden (Bruce Fraser):
Bit depth has no direct relationship to dynamic range. dMax is an analog limitation of the sensor, the point at which th esystem noise overwhelms the signal...

Andrew Rodney <email@hidden>:
Dynamic range and bit depth have absolutely no correspondence. You can have
a 10 bit scanner with a dynamic range of 3.8 and a 12 bit scanner with a
range of 3.3...

C'mon, guys -- stop the knee-jerk response and use your noggins! :-)

Go back and re-read what I wrote. I did not write, "dynamic range and bit depth are the same thing," I wrote, "Bits-per-pixel and Dmax should roughly correspond." (copied directly from my posting)

Yea, you can put a 500 horsepower race car engine on a Volkswagen drivetrain, also. But I'd suggest that should a car manufacturer do it, it's strictly for marketing, rather than performance. If they came up with some cheap engines, it might even make marketing sense, since there are so many people who buy "on spec" rather than "on performance." But it doesn't mean you can deliver a significant portion of 500 horsepower to the pavement!

So good sensors are expensive, and good ADCs are cheap. Load a scanner up with lots of bits you can't deliver meaningful data through, and then hand it off to the marketing guys.

You can digitize all the worthless bits you want -- they're still worthless. I stand by my statement. In a well-designed system, dynamic range and quantization level WILL roughly correspond. (Before pouncing on your keyboard, please note WELL-DESIGNED, and ROUGHLY! :-)

most CCD scanners, whatever their dynamic range, return a fair number of bits as noise...

Well, now -- if you actually read what I wrote, isn't that what I meant? If that wasn't clear, I apologize for not writing more clearly.

Also be aware there is no
universally accepted way of measuring dynamic range...

I guess we can sort of agree on that, except I don't believe the most optimistic and pessimistic way of measuring this would be off by more than a couple tenths -- ESPECIALLY since they tend to be inflated in the same direction by marketing folks -- but I'm willing to be educated here.

--
: Jan Steinman <mailto:email@hidden>
: Bytesmiths <http://www.bytesmiths.com>


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