Re: ICC and Colorspaces
Re: ICC and Colorspaces
- Subject: Re: ICC and Colorspaces
- From: "Russell Proulx" <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 12:24:33 -0500
- Priority: normal
On 7 Dec 2000, at 11:35, email@hidden wrote:
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No matter how dedicated you are in making calibrating and profiling
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work on your end, if the lab isn't doing the same on their end "It
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ain't going to work". .... if they don't keep their wet process tightly in
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tolerance, expect color shifts. So, it really boils down to the
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lab's consistency as well as yours, if it's going to happen.
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And when you say "the labs I output to don't use an ICC profile
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workflow", there really is little hope for high expectations.
Ralph,
The consistency issue is what killed my hopes with the KodakCRT. The
Fuji Pictrography is another animal, though. There's no chemical
replenishment and other related issues and is thus more consistent. It's
being kept very calibrated by an able technician and I remain confident
that this can indeed work (stubborn optimist that I am....<g>).
FWIW the results I've had with a KodakLED printer (improvement over the
CRT version) have been better than the lame technicians can achieve
using their eyeball kludges. But they're still not acceptable to me. I've had
to resort to outputting a small test, do an adjustment, and then output the
final within a short delay (too long and the chemistry can change). This
has been worth it for print orders in the 100's (or 24x30" prints) because
of the cheap photopaper it uses (as opposed to $$ Pictro paper). If I had
a better profile tweaking tool (perhaps DoctorPro?) then these necessary
tweaks might be more precise. I have 3 labs to choose from: The Pictro
lab with the careful technician, the KodakLED lab with the clueless
stumblers, and a lab I'm now doing tests with who have a Fuji Frontier
which they claim to keep very consistent (keeping fingers crossed).
All this hassle isn't much different than what we've had to endure with
custom traditional photo labs who never make the print quite like Ansel
Adams would do himself. I still feel this new technology offers
imagemakers far more control over the final print than ever before and
think that there is light at the end of the tunnel. (I do believe, I do
believe,...<g>)
Russell Proulx
Photographer
Montreal, CANADA