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Re: Kodak IPB profiles
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Re: Kodak IPB profiles


  • Subject: Re: Kodak IPB profiles
  • From: Joel <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 10:23:23 -0600

At 12:57 AM +0000 11/22/00, neilB wrote:
We are aware that the black and white points of the scanned IT8 should measure at about 5 and 250. But whatever the endpoints of the IT8 are set to when scanning, say as extreme as 245 and 15 when the scan is checked in Photoshop, the profile always maps the data right up to 0 and 255 when we profile to profile the IT8 scan to test the profile. Is this a Kodak IPB 4 feature?

No matter how large the destination workingspace [even tried Kodak ROMM] I find that in at least one channel a small amount of data is being apparently clipped since it rests at 255 or 0.

I had expected IPB to map to 5 and 250 say for data integrity, it is a rare occasion when a file needs to have black and white at 0 and 255.

I was considering buying ProfileCity's own scan profile generator, anyone tried it please??

thanks
neil



I think this can depend on the rendering intent you have chosen. If
you are using Relative Colorimetric then you might see this as a
natural mapping - into any color space.

Opinions?

Steve Upton


Opinion #1:
Photoshop re-maps input/output data over the range of 0-255 during any conversion which re-maps input/output data. A p2p conversion does this: i.e. look at your levels (command-L/control-L) and histogram before your conversion. Do your conversion, check levels and histogram again. Normally your levels will adjust to the new space but not necessarily over the entire 0-255 range. What alters the data in the p2p is the (usual) space-to-xyz, xyz-to-space conversion in the profile(s). Perceptual and black point compensation make for broader re-mapping, relative with no BPComp allowing less, etc.

Hope this gets a thread going that attracts more concrete theories. Good question.

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Joel Johnstone
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Winnipeg Manitoba Canada
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color geek in residence, reality notwithstanding


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