Re: Profiling software
Re: Profiling software
- Subject: Re: Profiling software
- From: email@hidden
- Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:16:39 EDT
In a message dated 6/13/01 8:41:06 PM, email@hidden writes:
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As someone who purchased Praxisoft CompassProfile partially on the promise
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that there would be a free CMYK upgrade down the road, I am overjoyed (not)
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by the fact that they have finally given up in their effort. After countless
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(well not quite) times of being told that the impending upgrade was just
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around the corner or just a few weeks away, they have finally decided that
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they can't provide the CMYK support people want from their original product
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and have now
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licensed the Monaco high end profiling application that will be sold under
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Praxi's name. Of course, they can't offer this as a free upgrade to those
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they had promised them to, but are willing to offer the Monaco product
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at a greatly reduced price.
Well, as one of the people that have insisted theat CompassProfile was not up
to standards for CMYK over the years, I sympathize with you; but they are at
least offering you some kind of more highly featured solution. Lets face it,
if they had offered a new CMYK engine in Compass Profile it would have been
licensed from Monaco, or some other source anyhow. I guess its the upgrade
price that you are really complaining about, and that is rather unavoidable
on PraxiSoft's part, as they have to pay licensing fees (I would assume) and
need to cover those costs.
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My question: Has anyone here used and compared the Monaco package with
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ProfileMaker or the new print profiling packages from ProfileCity?
I've not had the opportunity to use the ProfileCity package on a printing
press, but I beta tested Monaco's Proof and Profiler packages, and they
certainly offer features and results that Compass Profile never could, for
CMYK.
I've
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heard conflicting reports about Monaco. Of course, the folks at Praxi say
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it's great, and the Profile City stuff is so new that I haven't heard
anything,
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although I do like ICC Scan.
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I've been very satisfied with CompassProfile for RGB profiles on photographic
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outputs like Fujix, LIghtjet, LVT, Chromira, etc,
CompassProfile was the generally preferred package for LightJets, Lambdas,
Fujis and such highend RGB devices for years... at least until ProfilerPRO
started giving it some serious competition... but I've been called on the
carpet for recommending ColorVision products already today, so I'll try to be
careful here... <G>
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but have been far less
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satisfied with the profiles it generates for the latest batch of Epson
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printers. If the images have any significant tonality in the 3/4 tones,
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there are very harsh transitions that are unacceptable. It appears to be
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something that Epson is doing differently in their RGB to CMYK conversions,
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but they're not telling and
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no one at Praxi has any ideas. Profiles made for the EX and 1200 are fine,
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it's just the 1270 where I'm having the problem.
Praxisoft and other companies have indeed had some difficulty with the
1270/1280/1290 dye printers, and well as the 2000p and other pigment printers
from Epson. Again, I've found the ColorVision products to be very successful
with these devices, and generally have managed to get what the client needed
out of them with either the scanner based or spectro based versions fo
ColorVision Profiler... though of course the level of accuracy varies with
the patch reading method, so user expectations need to vary as well...
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My first needs are an RGB profiling application that can successfully deal
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with the Epson driver and my second needs are a CMYK application with full
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control over black generation and ink limits.
ProfilerPRO should cover both those solutions very well, at a price well
below anything else that will do so, but if you are truely gettting an offer
on Monaco Profiler that will match the price of ProfilerPRO, that would make
the choice much more difficult!
C. David Tobie
Design Cooperative
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