Re: PosterShop (from Lee) and Ink Limits
Re: PosterShop (from Lee) and Ink Limits
- Subject: Re: PosterShop (from Lee) and Ink Limits
- From: Peter Henry <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:16:42 +0200
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Message: 15
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To: email@hidden (Peter Henry), email@hidden
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(Colorsync l ist)
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Subject: Re: PosterShop Issue Specific (from Lee) and Ink Limits
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From: email@hidden (Lee Blevins)
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Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:05:45 -0400
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Organization: Digital Graphics, Inc.
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Onyx should take a more serious view of documenting it's
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product as well
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as a much more serious view of quality control.
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Bugs such as not being able to set the quantity of a job in the que
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until after it's ripped is either a gross oversite or a
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complete lack of
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understanding of workflow.
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It's hard for me to belive it passed any quality control inspection.
Hi Lee,
yes know what you want to say. I will pass this over to the Productmanager
in SaltLake City and Venlo as an information.
I suggest to close this general postershop issue now at least in this List.
We are off topic
Is the Version of PosterShop 5.5 SP2? that you are using and having the
difficulties with?
Just let me know. I was only aware about this issue of ignored number of
copies when you send something direct via the network into Postershop. In
the Client it should work.
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One other thing that I still have a hard time understanding:
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Why can't you build a linearization curve without printing the target?
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I've had many operators complain about this.
Yes know what you mean. It has some good reasons and comes out of history of
the product.
Personally I come from other rip platforms partially Unix based where you
have been able to drag curves without a printed target. This has a big
Contra: You have to know what you are doing... and you need a experient and
good colour eye.
Lee in your case as a professional with long years of experiance might be
the onyx way really a pain and hardly to understand. For a colour novice the
way that onyx takes is much easier.
Let me give you some background here. Genarally you have tow approaches:
Absoulte determining of Densities:
You measure the actual densities not manipulated by any instance in the
reproduction chain
and you compare and align them against a so called "MediaModell" (the curves
that you drag in the "tweak profile". The media modell is your master it
tells where the density journey has to go to.
Pro:
* If the MediaModells are accurate and matches the expectations even a
colour novice can run the procedure
* Calibration Maintenance is easy and accurate
* Values are transferable to other printers with the same media/ink
combinations
* The tables can be optimised for any demand and needs
Con:
* The MediaModells often do not match to the desired values
* You cannot manipulate the output curves direct
* The modells are controlling only til 95% by default
* If you are a professional not really an advantage
* Probably not easy to understand
Realtive determining of Densities:
This is the "old" common way to do it. Like you and me are used to do.
Editing direct the output curve relative to the "basement dens" values.
Pro:
* Very straight / immediately changes the output colour
* Precisely tool
* Quickly adjusted
Con:
* Not suitable vor laymen in colour
* Not easy to maintain because there is nothing you can align to exept your
eyes
* No way of automised measure procedure because the software has no absolute
values to align to.
* You never know where you are in density (offset / screenprint / ....)
Both ways do have their justification. The attitude of PosterShop is to
bring the contradiction of "keep it simple stupid" and "highly professional
tool" as close as possible together. As you see not allways ideal to solve.
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If we think there may have been an error in selecting an option during
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the build, we can't just run the target we just printed back through.
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We have to print it again.
No you can do it. Just cheat it release the swatch and do not print the
swatch (set the printer offline in server). I do this often the same way.
Works great. Just jump then in the create profile dialouge.
Or go to the "build the profile button" in profiler. Then you come direct
into the measurement dialouge and you can do what is desired without
printing the swatch.
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I'll lose my limited composure for one second here and tell you that is
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completely stupid.
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Any chance of getting a fix for that in this next service pack?
No we will not have a bugfix for this. It is not considerd as a bug.
The copies problem altough should be solved there.
And you have to upgrade to 5.6 to get the servicepack. There is no
maintenance for 5.5 any more
Feel free to stay in contact with me. The more precisely your questions are
the better I can answer. If you do not fed up with PosterShop too eary
you'll see a great and unike tool with lots of useful functions for inkjets.
I which good success
regards
Peter
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Oci Deutschland GmbH
European Product Support Germany
D-72336 Balingen
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