re: Quark 5
re: Quark 5
- Subject: re: Quark 5
- From: Chris Murphy <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 16:59:13 -0600
Pete Carter <email@hidden> writes:
>
I seem to get either the Pantone colors looking reasonably accurate and the
>
scans real bad or vice versa, or even both bad but never both good. Does
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POCE play a big part in this?
What might be going on is that pantone colors are not managed in
QuarkXPress 5 unlike in QuarkXPress 4. It was possible to start out with
a Pantone solid to process color and QuarkXPress would treat it as a
Quark color which you could color manage. You had to select a suitable
source CMYK profile for solid colors, and then it would repurpose the
color. If you specified a SWOP profile for solid, the old Pantone values
actually could be repurposed into something fairly usable for those with
reasonable (read LOW) expectations for reproducing Pantone solid to
process colors.
QuarkXPress 5 appears to treat solid to process as separate from Quark
colors. Quark colors must be RGB or CMYK (maybe one other like HSB, I
forget) for Quark to consider them "solids" for the purpose of color
managing them.
And QuarkXPress 5 uses the new Pantone solid to process equivalents as
well, which in some cases are TOTALLY different than the old values. And
insofar as I can tell, the specs Pantone has in their guidebook don't
conform to either SWOP or GRACoL. Whether there are printers in the
country who actually print this way remains a mystery. I'm sure they
exist, but I haven't found any yet.
Note that the solid to process values in QXP 5 match up with the solid to
process values in Illustrator 10, ID 2, and Photoshop 7 - and of course
the post May 2000 Pantone Solid to Process Guide.
So unless the press behaves like Pantone expects it to, the default solid
to process values in the ID 2 or QXP 5 libraries aren't going to work for
you. The images and the solid colors must be separated with the same
destination in mind in order for both to have a chance at reproducing
correctly.
Oh - and all typical warnings about the gamut of most Pantone colors
being outside the gamut of process printing, as well as the fact that
Solid to Process in general is a joke at best, totally misleading at
worst, that wanting Pantone colors without actually paying for ink mixed
in a bucket is wishful thinking, blah, blah, blah - apply.
Chris Murphy
Color Remedies (tm)
Boulder, CO
303-415-9932
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