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Re: Profile Editing Software!??
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Re: Profile Editing Software!??


  • Subject: Re: Profile Editing Software!??
  • From: joel <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 17:39:40 -0500

on 9/24/02 11:19 PM, Reve at email@hidden wrote:

The problem is some of the color cannot be reproduced
on a printer like "blue turns purple" and the color is very
dull especially red color. I know that this is due to the small
> color gamut.

Most profiling packages have formulas which map RGBCMY to the destination ink channels; what I refer to as gamut mapping from the software's default source Lab to destination Lab as represented in ink channel mixes.

Many default to process (SWOP?) ink conversions which overcompensate one ink over another in their RGB-to-CMY conversions:

R=M+Y (often too much yellow)
G=C+Y (often equal measures of cyan and yellow)
B=C+M (often too much magenta - because the cyan channel is usually heavy to start it is automatically limited by either the application or the ink limiting process.)

Add GCR and 'secret sauce' considerations, plus added inks like Or, Gr, Lc, and Lm to the equation and you can wind up with tainted resultant color mixes as well. Preview tags often cannot accurately replicate the results in applications which are centred on RGB and CMYK representations.

R=M+Lm+Y (no documentation on the ratios of M to Lm)
G=C+Lc+Y (same - no doc)
B=C+Lc+M+Lm (same - no doc)

CMYtoCMY appears relatively straight forward with the exception that piezo print process software screening algorithms (and/or applications and/or printer drivers) do not print single solid ink colors when they are not absolutely identical to the printer software's CMY tables. (I'm not even sure if they do when they do with the exception that a device independent postscript file from InDesign 2.0 with embedded eps appears to print solid ink per channel.) Hexachrome and hexachrome seperated DCS 2.0 files also appear to address individual ink channels directly, though I haven't done enough work to address this.

Add to this RGBtoCMY query: inkjet inks are different in comparison to their SWOP and Sheetfed cousins. When building proofing profiles a certain amount of tainting is required to 'simulate' a press inksets differences.

Some profile building applications put gamut mapping RGBCMYtoLab (or channel) up front at point of generating the profile. Others use different gamut mapping tools, but usually up front at point of generation. My experience has been you only have one, sometimes two, kicks at altering gamut mapping before the profile itself is toast.

I have yet to see or demo a profile editor which addresses this issue in a comprehensible manner worth the price of the editor.

Then again. I have yet to write on this topic in a comprehensible enough manner to say I could do better than the existing software. ;0)



--
joel johnstone
Color Canuck
(It was in my head but I lost it in the ColorSink!)
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