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Re: ECI 2002V or 2002R?
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Re: ECI 2002V or 2002R?


  • Subject: Re: ECI 2002V or 2002R?
  • From: Henrik Holmegaard <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 10:18:09 +0200

On September 27, 2002, at 16:16 Europe/Copenhagen, Jack Kelly Clark wrote:

>I'm starting to make cmyk output profiles with ProfileMaker 4.1. The new 1485 patch test charts
>are impressive >(thank goodness for the Spectroscan).
>However, the documentation for these new test charts is a bit sparse. The question is, which
>chart should one use? I'm about to profile a Heidelberg DI press and was wondering which
>of the two ECI 2002 charts would be the best choice?

Choosing a test chart is a bit like choosing a black replacement strategy. The type of test chart has to suit the type of process just as the type of black replacement does, so there are no hard and fast answers.

IMO a standards-based test chart has advantages over non-standard test charts, and the ECI2002 test chart which is an IT8.7-3 super-set should where possible be used in place of the IT8.7-3 which has always attracted criticism for the way it samples a print color space.

First, the ECI2002 should be used for the proofing process. And proofing profiles should be built with the highest possible resolution in the B2A1 table.

Second, the ECI2002 should be used for the printing process and profiles be built for the highest possible A2B1 resolution.

Then things get to be process-specific and instrument-specific.

There is a long-standing concept in the German printing industry that scrambled patch layout on test charts helps smooth over the impact of differential ink delivery in ink zones across the width of the printing press, especially when several test charts are printed across the format and the measurements averaged. Examples of this concept of arbitrary patch layout are the GMG Weihing proofing RIP chart and Heidelberg Printopen scrambled IT8.7-3.

As the IT8.7-3 and ECI2002 charts are / are going to become standards, the systematic layout (as opposed to scrambled layout) won't go away. It seems to be a concept built into the standards process -:). But on the other hand there is no compelling reason to use a good test chart in a maybe less practical way.

The iCColor x-y chart reader supports a scrambled ECI2002 layout. When the slowest, two part version is measured on OS 10.2 it takes 16 minutes for 1500 patches. The one part version is a couple of minutes faster. The SpectroScan x-y chart reader supports a systematic and a scrambled layout.

I would choose the scrambled layout. Long-winded reasoning, one-line conclusion.
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