Re: ICC in OSX compared to OS9
Re: ICC in OSX compared to OS9
- Subject: Re: ICC in OSX compared to OS9
- From: Nicholas Androulidakis <email@hidden>
- Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 04:59:11 -0500
Happy holidays, Bill!
I'm not an expert by any means. In fact, I've just added 3 Macs to
our small group of 5 PCs within the past two months. I've been reading
the posts here, and beginning to wonder whether I had made a serious
error in trying to shift to Macs (I generally prefer the working
aesthetics of Macs to Windows). I had thought it would be trivial to
color manage in OS X, given the years I have admired the wonderful work
I've seen from Mac users.
So, I've been reading the posts, thinking maybe we'll do our editing on
the Macs and use our PCs for printing on our Epson 7600 and 2200. I'd
tried a couple of times to configure the 2200 and Mac using the
profiles I've made (on the PCs using Monaco Profiler) but without
success, and with much confusion.
Earlier today, I decided to try once more. I gathered my notes from
various posts to this group, and set off.
I first removed the Gimp drivers using the uninstaller (as suggested by
members of this group). Restarted the Print utility. Downloaded and
installed the Epson driver. Used Photoshop CS with print preview, and
set the destination color space with my print profile from Monaco.
Under the myriad confusing options for printing available once I
pressed "print," I chose"No Color Management." I set the other driver
settings in PS after the Print button for the print resolution, etc.
that the Monaco profile had been built for. I saved these printer
settings as allowed under the Epson driver under an understandable name
for later re-use.
Outside of PS, I had already used the Colorsync utility to say I wanted
Apple CMM (rather than something called "Automatic." In the Colorsync
utility, I listed the devices, found the printer, found the "flavor" of
the 2200 I had installed ("Minimize Margins") and assigned the same
Monaco profile rather than the factory profile as its default.
I hit the final print button, and got a perfect print which matched the
output from a color-managed PC exactly as I would expect!
Sorry for the litany above, but I wanted to describe the range of
frantic (perhaps unnecessary) actions I took using several different
utilities (the print driver, the PS printer options, the Printer
utility, the Colorsync utility) that resulted in a working
color-managed Panther print system. I haven't setup the 7600 yet.
Maybe after the holidays.
And I lost the use of an Epson 870 for text printing because it is on a
print server and I have only been able to reach it with a CUPS driver.
When I installed its CUPS driver, on reboot it also installs a second
2200 printer using a CUPS driver that breaks the Epson 2200 driver!
I apologize for the long-windedness, but I'm pretty frustrated by all
this.
Color management under Windows 2000 and XP is a trivial task, although
I understand it is much less ambitious. Much as I prefer the Macs in
almost every other aspect of use, I think the approach to driver
installation (conflicts) and color management is nuts.
Over the past few years, I've walked friends and colleagues through
printer and color management setup a dozen times or so over the
telephone for their Windows and (usually) Epson machines. It takes a
few minutes, and has a reasonable, predictable, and obvious set of
steps. That doesn't seem to be the case with the Mac.
And please don't take this as part of some Mac vs. PC religious war. I
love my Macs. I've bought three in the past three months.
Except for the color management deal. And I am confident this will be
changed in some future update that will make me smile at the cleverness
of its solution. Just as OS X allowed me to bring Windows-networked
computers together with Macs without hassle (and allowed me to add Macs
to our shop).
I look forward to a new approach that is more easily understood and
managed by those like me who although familiar with the philosophy and
process of color management are daunted by the mechanics of it under OS
X.
Perhaps someone here who is more knowledgeable could list a recipe --
step by step -- of installing and using a color managed Epson printer
with Photoshop. Literally step by step. That might make it easier for
dozens of us who are baffled by the process either because it worked so
easily under OS9 or because it worked so easily under Windows.
My best regards and holiday wishes to the members of this list. And my
gratitude to all of you for the learning I have found here.
Best regards to you also, Bill.
Nick
Nicholas Androulidakis
email@hidden
On Dec 24, 2003, at 1:45 AM, bill agee wrote:
Question: How can I get back to making excellent profiles in OSX
like I used to make in OS9? I would like to purchase an Epson 2200 or
possibly an Epson 4000 and start printing some high quality inkjet
again. I hesitate only because of the Epson driver issues...or is it
Apple issues....under OSX. After reading all the posts...I don't
remember seeing a definitive answer short of someone saying that I
should uninstall all old printer drivers and that should make the new
OSX ones well... I am not a color tech person, just a particular
professional photographer. Can someone suggest an easy answer
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