• Open Menu Close Menu
  • Apple
  • Shopping Bag
  • Apple
  • Mac
  • iPad
  • iPhone
  • Watch
  • TV
  • Music
  • Support
  • Search apple.com
  • Shopping Bag

Lists

Open Menu Close Menu
  • Terms and Conditions
  • Lists hosted on this site
  • Email the Postmaster
  • Tips for posting to public mailing lists
Re: Profile Selection with Epson printers under OS
[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]

Re: Profile Selection with Epson printers under OS


  • Subject: Re: Profile Selection with Epson printers under OS
  • From: Chris Murphy <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 23:54:49 -0700

On Tuesday, February 11, 2003, at 06:07 PM, Armand Rosenberg <email@hidden> writes:


Let me clarify. If you're using a recent version of PhotoShop, you
can always do your conversion to a custom printer profile inside
PhotoShop prior to printing, and then just choose "none" for color
correction in the Epson driver options (assuming that choice is still
available under OS-X). This used to give similar but not identical
results to picking the custom printer profile in the driver under
OS-9. It's a way to apply custom profiles even if the driver doesn't
recognize them, but it's much more awkward especially for newcomers.

By the way:

1) I don't know why there was a (slight) difference in prints under
OS-9 depending on which method you used to apply the custom profiles.

I think people are currently better off using application-level color management and turning off color management in the printer driver. You don't get rendering intent control on OS X (yet), and you won't have the option of black point compensation either, in comparison to Photoshop. Both of these are important options to have. The following two options would get you the "same" results (differences between Adobe ACE and Apple CMM notwithstanding):

Photoshop does color management:
 Print Space (in Photoshop's Print w/ Preview) set to custom profile for the printer
 Rendering intent set to the profile's default (you'd need to know this, it's probably perceptual)
 Black point compensation OFF
 Driver color management set to off (or for a custom profile whatever settings were used to build the profile)

OR

Printer driver (OS) does color management:
 Print Space set to Printer Color Management (which is not an option in Photoshop 7 in OS X for some reason): this is necessary or the source space is not forwarded onto the driver/OS
 Driver color management set to ColorSync
 Ensure ColorSync Utility>Device>your printer>your printer media>Custom profile is set to custom profile if necessary


2) Some people on this list said it was better to choose "automatic"
or even "photo-enhance" rather than "none" in the Epson driver when
using custom profiles, but there was some question about gamut sizes
being the same or not using these different options -- I don't know
what the final consensus was on this point.

From my own experience only, I've had bad luck using Automatic in Epson printer drivers. The behavior of the printer changes depending on what's being printed, so that's a no go. Color controls>Photo-realistic (OS X default) is much more well behaved and "linear" but with reduced gamut. I've made nice profiles with the printer in this condition. PhotoEnhance4 is currently not available on OS X drivers (not sure if it will be at some point or what), but got good results with it on OS 9. No Color Adjustment has a larger gamut, but considerably less friendly behavior.

Considering how important Epson printers are to Mac users doing
digital photography, I am dismayed by these ongoing issues with OS-X.

Yeah, don't get me started. In the meantime, you might consider:

http://www.apple.com/macosx/feedback/

Chris Murphy
Color Remedies (TM)
www.colorremedies.com/realworldcolor
---------------------------------------------------------
Co-author "Real World Color Management"
Published by PeachPit Press (ISBN 0201773406)
_______________________________________________
colorsync-users mailing list | email@hidden
Help/Unsubscribe/Archives: http://www.lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/colorsync-users
Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored.

  • Prev by Date: Re: Profile Selection with Epson printers under OS X
  • Next by Date: Re: Photoshop 6/7 problems with Optical Monitor profiles
  • Previous by thread: SilverFast AI ColorSync Settings
  • Next by thread: Re: Profile Selection with Epson printers under OS
  • Index(es):
    • Date
    • Thread