Re: Can't get the color with Illustrator
Re: Can't get the color with Illustrator
- Subject: Re: Can't get the color with Illustrator
- From: Chris Murphy <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:40:05 -0600
On Monday, June 16, 2003, at 08:49 PM, email@hidden (Lee
Blevins) writes:
I see a difference between the squares in the Quark EPS but the squares
from Illustrator 10.0.3 (Macintosh) shows no difference between the
squares.
Sounds to me like Illustrator is not passing the spot color name onto
Postershop, or it's doing it in a way that Postershop doesn't
recognize. I'd save out ASCI PostScript and see if you can find
reference for your Pantone colors in the QuarkXPress version and
Illustrator version and see if there is a difference in how the apps
are calling them out. You might also try placing the Illustrator EPS
into QuarkXPress and then outputting it to see what happens.
Make sure you're specifying a spot color in Illustrator. There are
swatches that are not spot colors but use spot color names in the Solid
to Process and Process palettes.
I've created the document as RGB and the colors show as RGB in the
info.
That's not right. If it's an RGB document and you make a spot color,
the spot color should show name only. If it's showing up as RGB, then
it's no longer a spot color and that's probably why Postershop isn't
recognizing it.
1. Create new RGB document.
2. Window>Swatch Libraries>PANTONE Solid Coated
3. Use paintbrush tool to make a doodle
4. Click on Pantone 300 C in the swatch
5. Click on Eye Dropper tool, and click on doodle
Result: Info Palette, lower left quadrant reads:
T: 100%
PANTONE 300 C
Print to PostScript file, open in text editor, and search for Pantone -
and I see three references to Pantone 300 C.
Repeat the above but amend and add:
5. In the Color palette, click on the RGB symbol
6. Click on Eye Dropper tool, and click on doodle
Result: Info Palette, lower left quadrant reads:
RGB: 24, 120, 190
Print to a PostScript file, open in text editor, no reference to
Pantone.
Pitstop confirms these findings in a post processed PDF version of each
of these PostScript files.
What is happening with Illustrator? Is it interacting with colorsync?
Hmmmm..but I'm also seeing CSA references as well. But not in a typical
CSA way. When I process in Distiller set to tag everything for color
management; and set the profiles to be used in Distiller to something
other than that used in Illustrator - the object is tagged (according
to Pitstop Pro) with the funky Distiller profile. If the object were
tagged with a CSA from Illustrator, then it would have been converted
into a profile. Either that or Illustrator is doing CSA's in a way that
Distiller isn't supporting but Postershop is... but I think the
explanation is that your Pantone color is not being treated as spot in
Illustrator for reasons noted above, but as RGB, whereas it is treated
as spot in QuarkXPress.
Chris Murphy
Color Remedies (TM)
www.colorremedies.com/realworldcolor
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Co-author "Real World Color Management"
Published by PeachPit Press (ISBN 0-201-77340-6)
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