Phaser 7700 vs Okidata 9500: which is "best"?
Phaser 7700 vs Okidata 9500: which is "best"?
- Subject: Phaser 7700 vs Okidata 9500: which is "best"?
- From: Rahul Kaushik <email@hidden>
- Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:01:07 -0800 (PST)
Tom,
A few corection to your postings:
The Xante CL30 & Xerox 7300 are LED based Printer and It is
manufactured by OKI.
The LED technology is not inferior to Laser. The Heidelberg Nexpress &
Xeikon use LED arrays instead of Laser, Dianippon Screen uses LED on
their Imagesetters. In short as the need for large format Color page
printers increase most manufacure would have to use LED technlogy.
The Miore pattern can be over come on the OKI 9500, but need more info.
Thanking you
Mark
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1. RE: Phaser 7700 vs Okidata 9500: which is "best"? (tom
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vanderlinden)
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2. Re: embedding colorsync profiles in digital images (Andrew
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Visscher)
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3. Fwd: Phaser 7700 vs Okidata 9500: which is "best"? (tom
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vanderlinden)
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Message: 1
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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:30:12 -0500
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Subject: RE: Phaser 7700 vs Okidata 9500: which is "best"?
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From: tom vanderlinden <email@hidden>
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To: Color List <email@hidden>
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good evening - - --
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a late follow-up on this discussion of Phaser 7700 & Okidata 9500
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printers:
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The Xante CL30 printer was also mentioned.
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The Xante model with the best color control however, is the Xante
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ColourLaser Pro:
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-real Adobe level 3 RIP
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-clear controls for managing color on host or printer (there's no
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question about whether you're getting unwanted extra color management
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when sending targets or files that have already been converted for
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output)
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-I think it still comes with a basic version a third-party profile
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creation application. (I use Eye-One Match)
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-auto duplexing up to 11x17 inch sheets, will manual duplex up to
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13x19
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-has drivers for OS X that function fine, though not yet written to
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be
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a registered device in ColorSync Utility. This is not really needed
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for
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PostScript-producing applications, but a much better arrangement for
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the non-PostScript applications that one inevitably also uses, and of
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course, one wants the color right there, too. Are you listening,
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Xante?
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-the originating manufacturer is Hitachi, Xante adds a controller
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board, software, & manuals, & support.
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-print quality better than most xerographic printers, though not
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without some of the typical xerographic challenges
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(I don't sell Xante, but have been using them for a while now.)
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hope this helps
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- - -Tom Vanderlinden, 18Nov03
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printing for preservation
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Bridgeport National Bindery
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Begin forwarded message:
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> From: Roger Breton <email@hidden>
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> Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 7:58:52 PM US/Eastern
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> To: email@hidden, Color List
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<email@hidden>
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> Subject: Re: Phaser 7700 vs Okidata 9500: which is "best"?
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> As it turns out, the Okidata 9500 *is* a true blue genuine Adobe
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CPSI
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> PostScript 3 RIP!!! And in view of the wealth of color management
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> options, I
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> just want the good folks of the list know that this seems lie the
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> ticker for
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> my university graphic design lab.
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> Way to go Okidata -- thank you for freeing us from the Xerox/Fiery
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> tyranny.
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> Really, about the only missing the Oki 9500 ICC implementation is
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> "proof
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> printing" and Black Point Compensation. Unless I missed that too?
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Message: 2
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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:42:22 -0500
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From: Andrew Visscher <email@hidden>
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Subject: Re: embedding colorsync profiles in digital images
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To: colorsync <email@hidden>
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From: "Andrew Rodney" <email@hidden>
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> on 11/18/03 7:28 PM, John Fieber wrote:
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> > Preview IS color managed and will honor embedded profiles.
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> I stand corrected, you're absolutely right. Preview does handle
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files with
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> embedded profiles just as it should.
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I know this was all on a Mac, but coincidentally... a prompting from
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a
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message on a another forum today caused me to discover that the
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Windows
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Preview (right click on a jpg, for example, then select Preview;
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opens
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"Windows Picture and Fax Viewer") is also color managed. Images with
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embedded profiles are displayed correctly. Untagged images behave
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strangely,
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however -- they are not simply dumped to the screen as in Windows
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Internet
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Explorer, but they also did not seem to simply be assumed to be in
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the
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monitor's profile space or any other that I could find so far. Ex: an
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untagged AdobeRGB image appeared almost as if it had been loaded into
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PS as
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AdobeRGB, converted to sRGB, and then assigned back to AdobeRGB. In
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PS, I
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walked through previewing the assignment of each profile listed and
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none
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matched the Picture Viewer display for that untagged image.
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- Andy
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Message: 3
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Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 00:34:21 -0500
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Subject: Fwd: Phaser 7700 vs Okidata 9500: which is "best"?
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From: tom vanderlinden <email@hidden>
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To: Color List <email@hidden>, Roger Breton
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<email@hidden>
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good morning- - - -
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> Roger Breton
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said
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> The only problem with the Xante (and the Oki) is the moiri pattern
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> visible in the screens. That effect is nonexistent in the Phaser
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> because it
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> is a true laser whereas the xante is an LED laser. I don't know the
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> difference enough between these two technologies to explain why the
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> artefact
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> but the difference is somewhat annoying.
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I don't see this problem with the Xanti ColourLaser Pro.
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I believe it does not use LEDs.
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We once replaced the exposure unit,
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and I discussed it with the technician:
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on this model it is the traditional laser
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with rotating facetted mirror arrangement.
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I'm using the 1200 dpi model, and usually asking for 133 lpi.
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I have not noticed moiri.
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- - Tom Vanderlinden, 19Nov03
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printing for preservation
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Bridgeport National Bindery
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