Re: Murky prints, suddenly, from my Epson 2100
Re: Murky prints, suddenly, from my Epson 2100
- Subject: Re: Murky prints, suddenly, from my Epson 2100
- From: Thomas Holm / Pixl <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 15:33:18 +0200
Edmund Ronald wrote:
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> Thomas Holm rolled his eyes and responded:
No eye rolling on my end, legit question.
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>> The results are dark, murky, nothing like the
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>> PS preview. Can anyone tell me what is going on, and how I could get a
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>> decent screen/print match again?
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> I suspect the Epson driver has been set up inappropriately. It should be set
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> to No Color adjustment, and left there and at the same resolution used to
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> print the patches. IN fact the entire Epson driver should be identical
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> between profiling (print patches) and printing at a later stage.
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My 2100 driver _is_ set to no color adjustment.
What threw me off is this statement from the original mail:
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>>> I have checked the print-driver settings and am printing at -6% ink...
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The dpi settings _are_ the
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same. When I load the patches I load them untagged, and print "same as
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source". when I print pix I stay in my document and choose my profile as
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prints space.
Which is the way you should do.
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> Download ProfileMaker Pro. Open measure tool, the compare function,
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> and compare the measurements here. It will tell you whether colors drift and
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> how much...
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I have just done this.
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Delta E.
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Average Overall 0.97, Best 90 0.27, Worst 10 2.75.
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Sigma Overall 0.73 Best 90 0.33 Worst 10 0.86.
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Max Overall 8.61 Best 90 1.84 Worst 10 8.61.
If your overall deviation is below dE of 1 (and these numbers are what you
see today and some month back) the printer didn't drift all that much,
something else is the problem.
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There seems to be a small number of patches that evidence drift over the
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past 3 months. While it appears the printer was due for reprofiling
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anyway -it was profiled onthe hottest day of this summer- this confirms
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that my earlier troubles were clearly due to a printer driver issue.
It would seem that way yes, or Photoshop, or the OS printing pipeline.
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But what about the murky prints I am getting _now_ with the profile I just
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made ?
I would guess there is an OS difference (OS X 10.2?!?) of whether you print
with or without a profile on your system. You could try to convert to
profile (to your custom profile) in Photoshop and print. Then remove the
profile (image > mode > assign profile - Do not color manage) and then
reprint.
The two images should be identical. If they are not Photoshop (or the OS X
print pipeline) handles tagged and untagged images differently. This
shouldn't happen out of Photoshop, but I've heard of similar things.
If the prints are similar, try to reprint the original image, and use the
space pop-up to convert to the profile (the way you currently do) and
compare results.
If this print is still dark and murky I'd start reinstalling.
1). Reinstall the Epson driver (the fastest one to install).
2). If this doesn't fix it, try to reinstall Photoshop and see if this
helps.
3). I'd take a stab at the OS (talk about time consuming)...
4). Hopefully there is no four...
Best Regards
Thomas Holm / Pixl ApS
- Photographer & Colour Management Consultant
- Adobe Certified Training Provider in Photoshop.
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- Home Page: www.pixl.dk 7 Email: th[AT]pixl.dk
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