Re: BEST v5
Re: BEST v5
- Subject: Re: BEST v5
- From: bruce fraser <email@hidden>
- Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:20:57 -0700
At 9:00 PM +0200 10/12/03, Clemens Beisch wrote:
One question please:
I don't understand that postscript or PDF should be the color - problem.
postscript 3 and PDF/X3 are able to transport all kinds of color. So
there should be no difference - TIFF or postscript.
In a perfect world, there should indeed be no difference. But that's
not where we live. There are many more ways to screw up a PDF than
there are ways to screw up a TIFF printed directly to a local
printer. (Adobe seems to have a department devoted to finding
creative new ways to screw up a PDF workflow.)
I have yet to see Postscript color management produce desirable
results. It COULD work if we had much better tools for creating and
managing CRDs, but I frankly wish that the whole concept of
Postscript color management would just dry up and blow away.
ICC-based color management works, and is well-supported. At this
point, trying to make Postscript color management work is simply
reinventing the wheel.
I'm as big an evangelist of PDF/X3 as anyone, but for a fine art
photographer trying to produce sellable results from a large format
inkjet, it simply introduces uneccessary layers of complexity. If
it's necessary to do so, it's relatively easy (I almost said easy
enough, but that's not yet true) to get that fine-art TIFF into a
PDF/X3. But it's not necessary to do so to produce fine-art prints on
a local device.
Bruce
The question you have to answer is the following:
Do I only print pictures?
If the answer is YES, you don't need a postscript RIP.
Do I print pictures, high quality text and graphics?
If the answer is YES, you need a postscript or PDF/X3 workflow.
Proofing or fine art is only a question of the ICC profile intent
not of the workflow.
greetings form munich,
Clemens Beisch
p.s. sorry for my english :-)
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Am Sonntag, 12.10.03, um 20:26 Uhr (Europe/Berlin) schrieb bruce fraser:
I'd go further.
For those many photographers for whom the loose image IS the page,
a PDF/Postscript workflow is very counterproductive. It's slower,
more complicated, and it introduces many uncertainties in the
handling of resolution, color and tone. If you need Postscript, you
need Postscript. If you simply want to render photographic imagery
as well as the device will permit, Postscript is a hindrance, not a
help.
Bruce
At 2:13 PM -0400 10/12/03, email@hidden wrote:
Yup, thats the viewpoint that prepress oriented RIP people always express...
on the other hand fine art users are voting with their wallets for RIPs that
don't assume they are unfortunate folk not sophistocated in the virtues of a
good prepress RIP. I'm not saying that there can't be a bridge
from one RIP to
the other; only that the fine art RIP's price, features, and especially ease
of
use need to be viewed specificly from the fine art angle, not as a poor
cousin approach from the prepress market.
C. David Tobie
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