Re: Mess at the Press
Re: Mess at the Press
- Subject: Re: Mess at the Press
- From: Bill Whitfield <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 08:37:49 -0700
Greetings,
As one who has been reading this and other color / proofing slanted
digests for years (while patiently waiting for my company to purchase a
predictable proofing device) I am fascinated by what seems to be a
"moving away" from an ICC based proofing solution (at least on "this
side of the pond").
Particularly by the following statement made by Chris Murphy:
A lot of people do not like 100% yellow in a document to get proofed
with 3% cyan dots in it, Henrik. That's exactly what conventional
ICC-based proofing does unless DeviceLinks are used, specifically built
to maintain channel purity.
In the flexo world we seem to have no choice but to live with 100%
something (C,M,Y) with a tint of something else (C, M, Y) in our 100%
colors whether the proof is made by a proprietary system that uses
Device Links or an "open" system using ICC profiles because our 100%
printing colors do not match the 100% printing colors of the proofing
device. Is this not the case with other printing disciplines or do they
have the luxury of using printing inks that match the proofing systems
colorants? If not how does a Device Link specifically built to maintain
channel purity, maintain it? Please educate me.
I thought that ICC profiles were the answer to the printers challenge
of getting proofs to match the press.
Now that a budget looks close for the purchase of a proofing system and
I have amassed a great amount of information on ICC work flows, (many
thanks to all on the list) I seem to be no more ready to recommend a
system and implement a proofing workflow than I was a few years ago.
(A note - I have been in the flexo prepress world since 1981, read Real
World Color Management, attended many meeting of the colorsync users
group when they were held at Apply and I have great relationships with
Dupont, Creo and AGFA. I know their proof offerings as well as the ones
from Latran (Polaroid based), Kodak, Agfa, etc, etc, so please no
responses that say "my proofer" can match your 100% value inks using
Device Links - thank you)
Twenty three years waiting for a relatively easy solution to making a
proof that matches my presses and the search continues. While I would
never call an ICC based proofing workflow relatively easy it did appear
to begin to have a world wide presence - now I am not so sure.
-Bill-
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