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RE: The MESS at the PRESS campaign
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RE: The MESS at the PRESS campaign


  • Subject: RE: The MESS at the PRESS campaign
  • From: Henrik Holmegaard <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 22:18:38 +0200

"Darrian A. Young" <email@hidden> writes :

>I will continue to go with the "high-end", "dedicated",
>and "optimized" proprietary proofing system to get the same precise,
>consistent results it has been producing for quite some time.

It is not that I am blindly toeing the ECI line for ISO 12647, PDF/X-3 or modular transforms for that matter, but more that the other side of the discussion is using very big display type for a very weak argument -:).

As I cannot for the life of me find any technical argument in your post, let us begin with the abc of color space conversion, as in the cookbooks and countless past threads. If I am technically wrong, you will correct me on the technical points, of course.

A rendering intent workflow conventionally begins with the AtoB transform because photography begins with the AtoB transform.

So in Linocolor / Newcolor we have scnr AtoB and prtr BtoA - AtoB and mntr BtoA where A is device and B is PCS. Now we have a soft-proof.

Or in Linocolor / Newcolor we have scnr AtoB and prtr BtoA - AtoB and prt BtoA where A is device and B is PCS. Now we have a proof-print.

There is cross-rendering in the prtr profile as the rendering intent for the output AtoB - BtoA transform is different from the rendering intent for the input AtoB - BtoA transform.

(Keep in mind that input and output are terms which are relative to the PCS and not to the everyday language term for the type of device.)

Class scnr profiles are only required to be AtoB. Class prtr and class mntr are required to both AtoB and BtoA. This gives us bidirectional Adobe Working Spaces.

We now have the CIEL*a*b* color capture in Adobe Photoshop and we want to convert it into an RGB Working Space. So we watch out for the RGB clipping and convert.

We can now place the RGB image in Adobe InDesign as TIFF or PSD and control its rendering into the ICC CMYK printer profile for the intended printing condition.

We can predict how the RGB image will render on the soft-proof and the proof-print because the ICC CMYK printer profile for the intended printing condition is bidirectional.

Moving forward from Photoshop 5 which could cross-render with difficulty to Photoshop 6 which could cross-render correctly the List has agreed that cross-rendering is good.

With InDesign 3 cross-rendering is carried into PDF such that the CMYK ICC printer profile targetted by the RGB image is embedded as OutputIntent.

If the image designer applies the desired sharpening to the RGB image in Photoshop, the story does not have to be more complicated than the above.

Because the cross-rendering capability is contained in the PDF/X-3 Specification, it is possible to soft-proof and proof-print in PDF repurposing applications.

Because all images are RGB they will all be converted using the ink limit and black replacement defined in the forward transform of the profile for the printing condition.

And because cross-rendering is supported the backward transform will remap the color appearance and convert into the ink limit and black replacement for the proof.

CMYK is a redundant data model / color model in the sense that different process specific CMYK mixes may be used to create the same color.

At the abc level this is how it is possible to match color across printing devices which require different ink limits and black replacements.

(Darrian_1)
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