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Re: The MESS at the PRESS campaign
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Re: The MESS at the PRESS campaign


  • Subject: Re: The MESS at the PRESS campaign
  • From: Henrik Holmegaard <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 10:08:30 +0200

On Apr 5, 2004, at 4:19 PM, Henrik Holmegaard wrote:

The device link assigns an assumed source and then converts into the
proof space. How does the person preparing the proof know that the
assumed source represents the objects in the page when that person did
not harmonize the objects in the page in the first place ?


On onsdag, apr 7, 2004, at 00:10 Chris Murphy wrote:

They don't,

Thanks, that is what I intended to have MacWorld concede. I take it you are conceding the point on behalf of MacWorld. I don't mind loosing an argument to MarWorld, but I mind having to apologize to a customer for less than perfect documentation.

Furthermore, I appreciate the support as there are many sources of misinformation about device links, some due to poor understanding among ourselves and some due to deliberate misleading among the proprietary people.

In the first category I would place the MacWorld positioning of device links which does not address the consequences of implementing them before PostScript is streamed or PDF is exported, and after said both are completed.

In the first category I would also place the Virtual CMYK argument by Dave McDowell which was launched in the late 1990s, and which the iQueue documentation had in mind for its description of a correct workflow for device links.

In the first category I would finally place a number of developer teams who have speculated in and in some cases have gone to prerelease before discovering to their dismay the consequences of implementing support for ICC device links.

In the second category I would place the proprietary people who disregard the necessity to harmonize the objects in the page for the intended printing condition and encourage the use of non-ICC device links with

(1) no conversion for the print and conversion for the proof, or

(2) blind double conversion (*) for the print and conversion for the proof.

(* If an ICC or proprietary device link is used to harmonize objects for the print before the page assembly, or if objects are placed in the page in any mix of CMYK and a device link is used to harmonize objects for the print after PostScript is streamed or PDF is exported, then given that an ICC device link or proprietary device link is mutex with all ICC device profiles (: plus with CIEL*a*b*) having the same data space as the first data space in the device link, and will disregard the _given name_ of the device profile in relation to the _given name_ recorded or not recorded in the Profile Sequence (PSeq) tag of the ICC device link, then it follows that both correct and incorrect CMYK will be reseparated for the print which entails (a) double conversions and (b) no solution to the gotcha that some CMYK objects in the page will have too low ink limits / too low gamut to begin with. As in the cookbooks the rule is that one cannot get on the destination side what one cannot define on the source side which is one reason a CMYK workflow is a loosing game from the start. And that must be the world's longest and most convoluted sentence ever -:).)

Thanks,
Henrik
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