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Re: The MESS at the PRESS campaign
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Re: The MESS at the PRESS campaign


  • Subject: Re: The MESS at the PRESS campaign
  • From: Henrik Holmegaard <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 13:09:59 +0200

On 5 Apr 2004 18:56:11 -0700 Bruce Fraser wrote :

>For me, it's simply to point out that there are many middle positions
>between color management fascism and color management anarchy.

This in relation to the simple fact that the PS CMS and ICC CMS share the assumption that there is an unlimited number of AtoBx / ToCIE definitions of the color appearance at the object and sub-object level (: the stroke may be one color space and the fill may be another color space in InDesign) but there is one and only one BtoAx / FromCIE separation for the intended printing condition where separation is the shared ink limit and black replacement for the forward rendering tables into the device data space.

This is not the first time I seem to find myself moved by MacWorld into the fascist camp, whatever that may mean, but I should like it to be the last, please.

This discussion began because the color management marketing people have made a fundamental mistake which is to sell "device independent color".

This color marketing pitch ignores the fact that what happens on the printer and the press has to do with the ink limit and black replacement.

This is what CMYK is all about as it is a data space with a lot of latitude which allows process specific adaptations to the intended printing condition.

The MacWorld argument, as I understand it, is that screenshots need high black replacement and color images need low / lower black replacement.

The argument, again as I understand it, is that if screenshots do not receive high black replacement they are susceptible to casts caused by graybalance shifts.

I would humbly point out that in a standards-based printing condition casts caused by graybalance shifts are indeed cause for concern.

However, they are not cause for concern within the image design and page design workgroup convened to create a print publication, but they are very much cause for concern on the part of the prepress manager and / or press manager. Because if the press does not run graybalanced, the press run does not get remunerated.

I would also humbly point out that to the extent that for the same ink limit and gamut mapping settings in print profiling software, changing the black replacement does not deliver the same color appearance, then this is a problem for the print profiling software to address and not for the PS CMS and ICC CMS to be fundamentally redesigned.

In debating how to move the color management community forward from Photoshop to InDesign I find it not very useful to insist that each Photoshop user to whom photography is outsourced for an InDesign publishing project should refrain from making her own decisions about how best to separate to the intended printing condition. On the contrary the Photoshop users should convert content into ECI-RGB for their RGB remapping responsibility, and everyone should soft-proof, proof-print and color separate with one and the same profile for the intended printing condition. No unauthorized edits to the AtoBx tables in the profile for the intended printing condition, no manual custom color separations before the page design, fand PDF/X-3 remote proofing between the image design studios, the page design studio and the prepress manager / press manager so that RGB content can be properly signed off after cross-rendering and proofing by all concerned.

If there are exceptions then treat them as the exceptions they are. Do not make the mistake of treating the exception as the rule because when that translates into the message for the page design community, then that community turns color management off because the image design community refuses to co-operate and as a rule is misinformed. It may be argued that there is safety in early binding in Photoshop as late binding in InDesign is fragile, but it may be argued with equal plausibility that there is early binding is unsafe as for twenty years it has caused an uncontrolled mix of separations in the actual press run. The answer to this debate is not yelling fascism but accepting that publishing is teamwork where mutual control and mutual education determine the quality of the final product. The page design community has a climb much harder and much longer than the image design community, and it needs consistency and simplicity in communication.

Thanks,
Henrik
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