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Re: evaluating identical media in incorrect lighting conditions
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Re: evaluating identical media in incorrect lighting conditions


  • Subject: Re: evaluating identical media in incorrect lighting conditions
  • From: CitizenRay <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 20:28:36 -0800

What you describe may be, and I think likely, the result from a
problem in the bleach-fix. Leuco-cyan dye is a colorless
form of the cyan dye caused by poor bleach-fix performance.
Prints with leuco-cyan dye will appear to have a reddish cast
in the higher neutral-density regions of the images.
The most common cause of a leuco-cyan dye condition is
low bleach-fix pH. This can result from overreplenishment
of the bleach-fix tank or from incorrect pH.


Refer to the document at Kodak.com: Process Monitoring and Troubleshooting
with KODAK PROFESSIONAL Pro Strips Color Negative Paper Control Strips / for
Process RA-4

Viewing conditions make a big difference to this phenomenon as does time.
Both of which you've encountered.

It's not your imagination. Scan your sample print using a flat bed scanner
and compare that scan against a Kodak IT-8 paper target using the same
scanner at the same time. The scanned results should show much more red in
the suspect print paper.

Hope this helps,

-Stephen Ray



> We printed some files on a Lightjet last week. We made new prints from
> the same files this week. Some of these new prints were 200 percent
> enlargements, some had slight color corrections made to them, and some
> were unchanged from the first.
>
> When I viewed them in unbalanced light, the new ones all looked
> significantly redder, far enough that it would be unacceptable to the
> client. When I viewed them in balanced light, the new ones only looked
> slightly redder and were acceptable. So while the new ones did not
> exactly match under either light, they were acceptable under a balanced
> light source and unacceptable under an unbalanced light source.
>
> I am hoping someone can confirm that this is possible and not just my
> imagination.
>
> Thanks!
> John
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