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Re: Adobe CS Suite and Pantone Spots
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Re: Adobe CS Suite and Pantone Spots


  • Subject: Re: Adobe CS Suite and Pantone Spots
  • From: Chris Murphy <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 13:36:32 -0600

On Jun 11, 2004, at 1:31 PM, Charles Rieger wrote:

Hello,

I was hoping some on the list here could help shed some light on just how the Adobe CS suite handles its Pantone Spot libraries. It is my understanding (and I may well be wrong) that Photoshop CS bases its Pantone colors off of the LAB definitions supplied to Adobe by Pantone. The RGB or CMYK breakdowns are then generated based on the documents ICC profile.

Fo the solid libraries, that's correct. Unless you select a Solid to Process library, which contain only CMYK numbers also from Pantone.

I am unclear however on how Illustrator/InDesign handle Pantone colors. My hope was that the three apps used the same methodology to derive the RGB and CMYK breakdowns, but apparently this is not the case. I have read on the Adobe forums that Illustrator and InDesign base their values from the CMYK breakdowns supplied from Pantone, not the LAB values. This seems to make sense from what I've observed, because no matter what CMYK profile I assign a document, the Pantone breakdowns are always the same. But for RGB documents, the breakdowns vary depending on the document profile.

That's right.

So it seems that for CMYK documents Illustrator and InDesign always use the Pantone blessed values, but for RGB documents, these CMYK value get converted to the RGB space assigned to the document. If this is the case, does anyone know what the source space for the blessed Pantones are, and how it is getting converted to RGB?

What happens for an RGB document, the CMYK Working Space profile is assumed as source, the RGB Working Space profile is assumed as destination (for ID it's the Document CMYK and Document RGB profiles respectively which could be different than Working Space settings), and the CMYK value is converted to RGB accordingly. You get what you get which is usually not particularly good.


Chris Murphy
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References: 
 >Re : Seeing lab with Photoshop (From: "lagado" <email@hidden>)
 >Adobe CS Suite and Pantone Spots (From: Charles Rieger <email@hidden>)

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