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Re: press or proofer


  • Subject: Re: press or proofer
  • From: Ulf Grossmann <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 09:24:45 +0200

Hi to All,
I think, the way how to implement CTP to an existing Process is every time
different from costumer to costumer.
At this moment I work on an implementation of CTP, Opaltone and a new 8
color press inside the packaging production. My aim is to print old designs
to the new press with 7 Colors (CMYKRGB). After analysing the current
situation I found, that there is no standard implemented yet. The Dotgain
various between 0% and 30% from Design to Design. I can't use a correction
curve inside the platesetter RIP. Also they mix the colors different from
Design to Design and this is the reason why I can't use an ICC Profile for
the CMYK part.
You see, there is no base to start from and I have to design my own one.
If you have the same situation it is not a bad idea to start with one of the
national or with the international standards to setup the press and proofer.
For proofing you can directly use the official ICC-Profiles and for the
press you have defined printing conditions.

Best regards
Ulf Grossmann

Am 19.05.2004 19:41 Uhr schrieb "Jim Rich" unter <email@hidden>:

> On 5/19/04 1:32 PM, "Roger Breton" <email@hidden> wrote:
>> Incidentally,
>>
>> I have a printer who usually runs my jobs who soon will be migrating to ctp.
>> We were discussing, yesterday, the relevance of doing a press profile using
>> their current film output analog plate making system and, for the life of
>> me, I could not convince him of the benefits of doing a press profile now
>> since he's going ctp. But I thought about it some more last night and I
>> think it's very important that he does the exercice before completing his
>> ctp installation. Otherwise, when the ctp comes in and he starts making
>> digital plates he's not going to have any point of comparison as for as
>> process control? Yes, solid ink density is easy to figure out as it's not
>> bound to change with either system. But dot gain is another story? I think
>> he should emulate his film-based analog dot gain on his ctp system.
>>
>> What do you think?
>
> I agree. This also gives him or her the opportunity to use that profile
> with their CTP if necessary, by assigning it to the files in the CTP
> workflow. I guess it is about figuring out the cost of making a good press
> profile and then weighing that cost of trying to get the CTP to match the
> old setup.
>
> And I think that it would be valuable for this printer to try and define
> their dot gain in the film to plate and in the printing process. Then they
> will know where their process is at and how to compare it to their CTP.
>
>
> Jim Rich
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