Re: How to work with ColorSync unaware printers?
Re: How to work with ColorSync unaware printers?
- Subject: Re: How to work with ColorSync unaware printers?
- From: Steve Upton <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 10:23:13 -0700
At 2:49 PM +0100 11/1/04, Paul Schilliger wrote:
>Sometime ago I shared about my disappointing experiences with printers who do not take into consideration the ColorSync profiles. Shortly after that, I sent another job to another printer but I asked him first what profiles I should use, asking if ISO Coated (someone on the list had advised that I should try this profile) was all right. His answer was that this profile was fine. This was a job in a hurry (as usual, I'm afraid) and there was no time for a proof. The flyers came out too dark. When I asked the printer why, he said that next time I should lighten the files by 10%. This answer didn't satisfy me, for the files were fine, so I asked him how he dealt with the profile. He said he had converted the file into SWOP. But when I checked by soft proofing, it was obvious that he had assigned the profile instead of converting to it. So here is my next question in my quest for a fool proof way of dealing with printers: What would you think of sending Photoshop files that have been saved as RGB EPS files? The printer would then have to check the CMYK option when he opens the file, and the file should be then separated into his CMYK settings. Would that approach make sense?
it sounds like there are a few points of confusion here.
1. Many printers THINK they are "profiled" because they have profiles setup in their RIP. What they don't understand is most prepress RIPs will NOT convert CMYK to a different profile because they (the RIPs) consider it "done". So even though the printer configured their RIP to have a CMYK profile, the profile will only get used if RGB is sent to it. So the printer thinks conversion is occurring and it is not. - this is outrageously common.
2. If he thinks they print to SWOP and then you used ISO coated then the differences between the two may have contributed to your problem.
When dealing with non color management-savvy printers it is still best to do as you are doing and request separation information and send CMYK. In this case it sounds like they are not printing things properly and you did what you could. I'd show them the error in their ways and see how they respond..... and keep looking for more savvy printers....
Regards,
Steve
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