Re: Colorsync Unaware Printers & the Almighty Prepress Proof
Re: Colorsync Unaware Printers & the Almighty Prepress Proof
- Subject: Re: Colorsync Unaware Printers & the Almighty Prepress Proof
- From: Andrew Rodney <email@hidden>
- Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 07:39:25 -0700
on 11/3/04 7:25 AM, Walter Zacharias wrote:
> So after a lengthy post, Randy comes to the same point as Paul and I.
As do I. Good post.
> The question we raised is, how to get that "perfect" profile from the source
> (if you are a printer) or the printer (if you are the content creator)? And
> related to that question is, how do you qualify and guarantee the profile is
> representative of their expectations prior to ink on paper?
I roll my own. But I'd be just as happy if a printer provided a good output
profile for their contract proof. As yet that hasn't happened. I'm working
on a major project to be printed here in this country by one of the biggest
names in printing. Since I don't want to get in the middle, I had the "print
expert" at the publisher interface with the actual printer so I could get
proper aim points for conversions since I'm responsible for this. The email
I got back was complete nonsense about what ICC profiles were supposed to do
(in their mind) and how I should setup the Photoshop classic engine to do
conversions. Oh, they print to SWOP. Right.
I did one test to their contract proofing device (Matchprint running
SuperWhite stock) using the TR001 profile (U.S. Web Coated (SWOP)) and the
blues were going way too magenta and gray balance was off. Well they are not
aiming for SWOP! Built my own in ProfileMaker Pro using the ECI2002 target.
Way better proof. Now I just need to find a human who can supply some aim
points for TAC and GCR. That will take another two weeks...
It's shocking how difficult it is to get this to work unless you yourself
take over and run contract proofs, build profiles etc.
> 1) Education is always the best answer but the most costly and time consuming.
Exactly.
> 2) If the scans are supplied with embedded profiles and an accompanying proof
> to the printer, the printer need only view the colour on a calibrated and
> profiled device that they know is representative of their final printing. View
> the colour relative to the proof supplied and make a judgement as to whether
> it is "close enough". If not, the profile and proof are not related, or at
> least not accurate.
I don't want a printer touching my files. I'm going to supply them in output
space optimized for their condition. I can't do that without a good profile.
The last thing I want is someone trying to alter the numbers or "fix" the
color. But that's just me.
> 4) Implement a contract soft proofing solution like ICS or Kodak Matchprint
> Virtual to avoid the cost of the hard proof.
Not getting a true contract proof is in my mind too dangerous. The last
thing I want is finger pointing at the press check. If I nail the contract
proofs, I leave the pressman to do his/her job. If they can't, it's not my
headache.
Andrew Rodney
http://digitaldog.net/
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