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Real world experience w/ GMG and Oris RIPs
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Real world experience w/ GMG and Oris RIPs


  • Subject: Real world experience w/ GMG and Oris RIPs
  • From: Rich Apollo <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 08:05:14 -0600


On Nov 17, 2004, at 2:03 PM, email@hidden wrote:


The
major benefits to most other Rips as I see them are GMG's proprietary
profiling process is iterative, each measurement cycle lowering the
delta E between the target and actual Lab values until it is within a
user specified delta E value or it can no longer be lowered. If you look
at the IPA Proofing Round Up results, you'll see they took 1st
place(colorimetric)with an average delta E of .89 compared to DTR004
(Oris took second). I have done this myself and gotten a delta E of .64
and could probably go lower by using GMG's own paper. This is all
accomplished without the need for third party software (ProfileMaker,
ect).



A couple of things to add:

1) Since the "color-matching" processes of these RIPs use no ICC profiles - what are users sending to clients in place of a press/target profile?

2) In doing some testing here with Oris I found their deltaE numbers to be rather "optimistic". I took the same measurement data into Measure Tool and found that I had not improved at all over my current proofing scenario (comparing measurements of TC3.5s and IT8-7/3 from press and proofer). Anybody else done similar comparisons?

3) Your experience seems to depend a lot on which proofer you have. For example - I've got the KPG 5542 (HP 5500 with KPGs firmware) and Oris does NOT like to play with this unit. The API's weren't written for it - so use differed quite a bit from the "wizard-based" approach laid out in the "manual".

4) Lastly, Oris apparently has 1 tech support guy: Lewis. And while Lewis really knows the software, if he's out on site, or at lunch, or in the potty you're pretty well screwed. No one else has a clue. GMG's installation and tech support are farmed out to a color-consultancy who never bothered to call me back when I wanted to test the product out in my shop.

Roger, how do you spell it? Say la vee.


Rich Apollo Priority Litho 314-344-1144 email@hidden

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