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  • Subject: web colors
  • From: email@hidden
  • Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 16:00:53 -0500

I went to a computer store to check on maybe getting a new mac....
Not much you can do with them out of the box on display, so I ended up dialing my own website and I was shocked to see that a lot of the colors were way off. First I suspected the stubborn mac 1.8 gamma, but the photos looked good actually.
My work method is to make the pages in PS CS and slice them up into jpgs with sRGB tags. All the side-by-side slices are the same 100,100,100 Grey from the same psd file, but were showing as different densities from one another by 10-20%. Safari, latest version that i run on my stable 10.2.8 - all are showing exactly the same grey on my profiled monitors - 20" cinema, 17" LCD, 2 powerbook LCD's and 2 CRTs.
Safari in 10.3.7 were showing these slices like a patch quilt on iMac's and cinema displays ranging from 20-30".
I tried different display profiles on my displays, but could not recreate the problem on my computers.
A few .gif files that looked the same on my Safari and almost the same in IE - OS10.2.8 - was much different grey on OS10.3.7 and Safari. I left only one animated .gif for now....


I downloaded from the web server all the files and opened in PS. All grey measured 100,100,100 and looked exactly the same in PS ( i copied them on top of each other and could not tell where one image tone started and the other ended) and all showed to be tagged sRGB . No error message and looking at assign they showed as sRGB.
It was not till I had redone from scratch (with type etc) all the files that looked different grey and saved them all over again that things started looking closer, but not close enough - i may have to redesign my whole website, which is pretty extensive and I'd be limited to white or black i guess....
I have to run over to the computer store to check, because they still look fine on my 5 macs running Jaguar.
Also checked OS 9.2.2, which was fine.


I did come to a few conclusions and a suspicion...
IE does not seem to color manage images that function as roll overs and there is a 5-7% difference
and with cm turned off in IE there are 1-2% differences still. Again: roll-overs and all the images with grey are a perfect match in OS10.2.8 and Safari. Also a perfect match opened in PS.
I wonder if I inadvertently used grey jpgs that may have had different rendering intents. Perceptual on some and colorimetric on others, but I doubt it since I simply used a different setting in the "color settings" in PS when i do web work.


... so gurus - what's going on here and what can i do to save my web site design ?

thanks for any thoughts and help furthering CM in he real world.

Ulf Skogsbergh

ulfphoto.com

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