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Re: Press Profiling Question
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Re: Press Profiling Question


  • Subject: Re: Press Profiling Question
  • From: Ray Maxwell <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 11:00:35 -0700

Hi Dick,

I suggest that you start with a guess as to the dryback and print to the estimated wet target densities. It will vary with the press, inks, paper, and environmental conditions. I would suggest that a good place to start is the following for coated paper.

Black dryback 0.10
Magenta and Cyan dryback 0.05
Yellow dryback 0.02

After you make wet and dry measurements you can calculate your own exact dryback allowance.

I have tried polarized instruments and I believe that this introduces yet another confusion factor. It introduces yet another spectrum modifying device that does not help.

ANSI CGATS standards suggest the following standards.

Dry
Status T
Absolute
Black backed

I also suggest that you use a spectrophotometer. Densitometers with filters that fade do not give consistent accurate measurements. The spectro calibration methods allow for this.

Ray Maxwell


Busher Jr Richard C wrote:

I have been giving thought to the possibility of profiling a 4-color offset printing press. I've noted that the GRACoL standards for solid densities refer to measurements made when the press sheet is dry (I suspect that SWOP and other standards have the same requirements). However, in practice, one cannot wait until the sheet is dry to decide if the proper densities have been obtained during the testing procedure.

The question then is what fudge factor does one use for dry down changes in cmyk ink densities? Would you use a percentage of the measured wet densities of each color? Or would you use a fixed amount regardless of the measured wet densities of each color?

My goal would be to start the process at some industry industry standard (e.g. 175 lpi screens, #1 coated sheet, GRACoL ink densities and dot gain) and progress to stochastic screens, with elevated ink densities.

Dick Busher
Cosgrove Editions

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