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Re: Colorconfiguration for Apple Apps / Tiger
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Re: Colorconfiguration for Apple Apps / Tiger


  • Subject: Re: Colorconfiguration for Apple Apps / Tiger
  • From: Jan-Peter Homann <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 16:18:20 +0200

Hello Eric, hello list
I´m doing colormanagement betatesting and troubleshooting since the days of the first Mac II.
(in this time colormanagement was not ICC-based...)


From my point of view, the colormanagement-implementation in Tiger and the Apple apps are a brilliant example, what mistakes a OS-vendor can make.

I´m seriously thinking to offer a seminar at the ICC-developers meeting in November with the title:
"The Tiger disaster, learning from the mistakes of Apple"


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What should Apple change in the next versions of MacOSX and their own applications:


1. Transparency, transparency, transparency
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Apple has more or less hidden the colormanagement for their own apps, the printer-driver an PDF-generation via printing dialogue.


For the professional user, it is essential to know:
- which profiles are assigned for untagged data ?
- in which cases are profiles embedded during saving / exporting files
- in which cases are automatic colorconversion triggered ?
- what are the rules for such conversion ?
- How can the user change the rules ?
- How interferes the OS with applications and printerdrivers during printing ?
- How interferes the OS with applications and printerdrivers during PDF-export via the printer-driver ?



1. Give us back the central colorsettings
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Every colormanagement aware OS and application needs a colorsetting, which describes, how untagged data are handled.
The idea to hardwire this colorsetting for MacOSX and the Apple apps is mad. Give us immediately back the colorsync control panel.


2. More control for the advanced user
-------------------------------------
Actually, the advanced user has often no choice to specify rendering intents for e.g. softproofing or printing.
For the handling of PDF for printing, it is necessary to make clever use of the output-intent.
For displaying PDF/X-1a data, the output-intent should always be used and the user should have the possibility to get an info, what the profile is.
For dealing with untagged CMYK-data, the OS should assign a CMYK-profile temporarily for softproof and printing and inform the user, what profile is used. For saving/exporting PDF-data, deviceCMYK, data MUST NOT (!!!) converted to ICCbasedCMYK. Instead, the temporarily assigned profile should be embedded as output-intent.
The PDF-Export should also have the option "Save as PDF/X-1a" In this case, deviceCMYK is untouched, and ICCbased colorspaces are converted to the actual CMYK-workingspace. This profile is embedded as output-intent.


For dealing with colortransformations, the user should have control over every application, where such colortransformations can happen. He should be able to specify rendering intents, if he wants.
If an application is using a default rendering intent from the source or destination-profile for colortransformations, the application / OS should be able to always use blackpoint compensation, with the default intent is relative colorimetric.


For building professional PDF-colorservers, it should be easy to use devicelink-profiles as quartz-filters.

This are are my 50 ct, for an colormanagement-aware OS, which addresses the needs for graphic arts professionals.

:-) Jan-Peter





Erik Koldenhof wrote:
Jan-Peter,

As you problably know, Tiger changed everything on ColorSync handling.
Because the ColorSync preferences are no longer there, everything is set to 'Generic' profiles when no embedded profiles are available, and it cannot be changed.
I even tried to change the default profiles to better standards via Applescript and Terminal scripts, but the defaults are gone i'm affraid.


One other issue in Tiger is the lack of ICC v4 support, which Apple did support before Tiger.
Just check the ICC v4 testpage on www.color.org and you'll see.


The only thing you can/should do at this time, is to try to actually embed a real profile into the image.

Preview app runs via ColorSync as well, and still can handle PDF/X-3 color info more or less OK, but I believe PDF/X-1a is also handled via the 'default' profiles...
iPhoto now accepts embedded profiles, but converts the image towards 'GenericRGB' when you edit the file (rotating, color corrections, etc).


So, there are some serious issues with Tiger still, I'm sure we haven't found them all yet...

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