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Re: Goodbye ICC, here come Microsoft !
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Re: Goodbye ICC, here come Microsoft !


  • Subject: Re: Goodbye ICC, here come Microsoft !
  • From: Jan-Peter Homann <email@hidden>
  • Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 13:58:01 +0200

Hello list
I read carefully the documents, and it seems that Microsoft is doing a good job in terms of a powerful colormanagement-infrastructure for Windows VISTA with some clear business models.
Even if I´m Mac addicted, the technical concept is far ahead of colorsync or ICCv4


A comparable concept for colorsync would include:
- 16-Bit CMYKmyog Printerdrivers which can be directly profiled
- A smart CMM, which uses only the absolut colorimetric tables of an ICC-profile with additional parameters for viewing conditions / gamut mapping
- direct support of measurement devices, whithout the need for profiling softwares
- A clear idea, which markets ar adressed, and what are the benefits of the users, hardware- and software vendors.


We should also take in consideration, that Microsoft was the first (and still only) company, which defined a complete colormanagement-workflow (from input via sRGB to output) and delivers testsuites to the vendors for checking the behaviour of input and output-devices / drivers, according the MS workflow definitions

I´m waiting since years of clear workflow definitions from the ICC, how the OS, drivers and applications should interact. Part of this workflow definitions must be testsuites, to check the behavior and the communication between drivers, OS and applications.

As the ICC itself has no clear vision, how colormanagement should work in detail, also Apple has it not. You can see it at the actual colorsync implementation, which has some nice ideas but is intransparent and useless for the professional user. Hardwired colorsettings, unwanted embedding of profiles and automated triggered invisible colorconversions are a diseaster.

Adobe instead made a good colormanagement-job with CS2 for the professionals.

Also very interesting are the actual discussion in the Open Source Community concerning colormanagement.
The free available argyllCMS has already implemented features Microsoft is announcing. Including a free high-end print-profiler, smart gamutmapping based on CIECAM02 an separation-preserving for CMYK2CMYK.
Unfortunatly there is no GUI. All the work has to be done with the terminal.


The Open Source vendors of the OS, drivers and applications are discussing activly at the openicc-mailinglist how to integrate their products better.
The littleCMM has now more features as the CMMs from Adobe or Apple and is already integrated in several OSS-products.


If Apple still ignores the professional users with their colorsync-implementation, I will may be buy my first Windows PC in the future to use:
- Adobe Creative Suite
- Microsoft Colormanagement
- Open Source Software


After 16 Years of being a Mac-only User, this would be hard step...

:-( Jan-Peter

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>> snip http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/display/color/WCS.mspx

Very interesting is

http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/d/6/5d6eaf2b-7ddf-476b-93dc-7cf0072878e6/WCS.doc

Sounds to me like the CMS software vendors are going to have issues -
hardware vendors might like this.

Edmund
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