Re: moderately priced displays??
Re: moderately priced displays??
- Subject: Re: moderately priced displays??
- From: Kamil Tresnak <email@hidden>
- Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 01:49:40 +0200
Marco,
maybe my recent post is little bit unintelligible - sorry for this and
let me try again (and hope better):
- in no circumstances i dont want compare 2180UX and 2180SV with
2180WG; two letters and what a difference! :)
2180WG is absolutely another category (NEC calling this device as
"Reference").
But SpectraView series is not only 2180WG, there are others devices -
and this is what i mean. In fact, hierarchy is 2180UX -> 2180
SpectraView (price 1,5 x 2180UX in Czech) -> -> -> 2180WG (price ca 4 x
2180UX).
BTW - LaCie 321 is "almost" NEC 2180 SpectraView, but price is lower ;)
- GammaComp is SIMPLE application (as i wrote), not intended for
calibration, which allow you "look into LUT", switch between curves and
manually alter values in LUT - absolutely no link to any measuring device.
- Because GammaComp is irrelevant for calibration, you can use 2180UX on
Mac and Windows in the same way. As i wrote, 2180UX have 10 bit LUT (set
to gamma 1.8 in production, acc. to NEC data sheet i have). In this case
you can all the time profit from high precision color rendering (thanks
to 1024 steps in each channel), you can make profiles with SpectraView
Profiler (which is, as we all know, OEM basiccolor display), and you can
make very good profiles with third party SW too. Only thing you can not
perform is HW calibration (mean modify internal LUT), because this
feature is reserved for 2180SpectraView series displays.
(NEC keep this lineup in Europe (http://www.nec-display-solutions.com),
US site is different, this is little bit confusing for me). (btw, 1980
SpectraView can not perform HW calibration too, only video LUT
modification is possible, and this display has worse LCD than 2180).
So purpose of my last post (for Rhea:)
- Nec 2180 SpectraView (or US equivalent) is very good, HW calibrated
display, maybe not suitable for your budget
- NEC 2180 UX (or US eq., if any) is in visual quality very close to
2180SV, no HW calibrated, but with 10 bit internal LUT and good price
- consider LaCie 321 too: it is same quality, very good display, HW
calibrated (!) with LaCie SW, and you can get it for nice price with
measuring device (maybe depend on local reseller policy, i am not sure)
Hope my simply English is not the case misunderstanding ...
With best regards
Kamil Tresnak
Prague
Marco Ugolini wrote:
In a message dated Tue, 20 Sep 2005 15:38:01, Kamil Tresnak wrote:
NEC LCD2180UX is really very good display. In fact, this is "almost"
SpectraView class monitor - as i know, LCD is the same, but there are changes
in internal logic. SpectraView is measured and selected to comply with
SpectraView criteria and equipped with protocol. Both have internal 10 bit LUT
but SpectraView software can modify internal LUT only in case of SpectraView
model, for 2180 this is disabled (only measuring of monitor response is
provided).
Thank you, Kamil. What you say is very interesting, specially considering
that the MSRP (manufacturer-suggested retail price) of the LCD2180UX is US
$1,500, whereas the MSRP for the LCD2180WG-LED is US $6,750! More than
$5,000 higher! Those of us who don't have thousands of $ to sink into
equipment should have alternatives to choose from.
One thing makes me wonder, though: what good is it to have a 10-bit LUT in
the LCD2180UX if you cannot make use of it on a Mac?
And, if you have a PC, does GammaComp allow for instrument-based LUT
calibration, or is it all manual and done by purely visual evaluation?
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Marco Ugolini
Mill Valley, CA
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