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Re: Measuring Delta E from two different spectrophotometers
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Re: Measuring Delta E from two different spectrophotometers


  • Subject: Re: Measuring Delta E from two different spectrophotometers
  • From: <email@hidden>
  • Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 18:26:07 -0400

Richard,

The Eye-One is a 45-degrees/0-degrees instrument, compared to your two sphere instruments, and assuming specular-included (SPIN) measurements, the L* values should be slighly lower for glossy samples in the Eye-One case. You should not compare data taken from two different instruments, as you mention in your point 2. Also, Eye-One Share uses a 2 degrees Observer and your other data was computed with the 10 degrees Observer; not to be done also.

Your point 3, about various resolution for different instruments goes in line with my comment (in my first response) on the sharp cut-off often seen on (bright) yellow, orange and red colors.

Oh, and yes.
It's a very, very, VERY bright orange.

Hum!!! Look at the spectrum with the Eye-One. If it goes over 100 at some wavelengths, around 590 nm, you have your answer on fluorescence. (Note: You can also use the BabelColor software in demo mode for this measurement ;-) )


Is your Eye-One a UV-cut model? (I presume it is not)
Does one or both of your sphere instruments have a specular-included(SPIN)/specular-excluded(SPEX) option? This option can be computer or manually controlled depending on instruments. If yes, make sure the mesurements were done in the same configuration.


Danny

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On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 15:31:53 -0500
 Richard Brackin <email@hidden> wrote:
We just did another test.

We compared the readings from the Gretag Eye-One Photo vs the ColorGuide Sphere.
Those are the two items we have in house.


The Eye-One measured a 2.4 delta E difference (using Eye-One Share Software)
The BYK-Gardner measured 11.9 delta E difference on exactly the same patch.
The Eye-One Share software is calculating delta E using LAB (CIE 1976, just as the BYK Gardner is currently configured)


Digging around, I found a cached PDF on the former BYK-Gardner site.
The following three items caught my attention, and some have already been brought up here.


1. Traceability to different institutes like NPL or NIST
2. Different instrument design (opticcal principle, size of sphere, light source)
3. Different spectral resolution (10 or 20nm); has a big influence when colors with sharp reflection curves are measured.


Oh, and yes.
It's a very, very, VERY bright orange.

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