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Today's Topics:
1. Profiling a Xerox 3535 (email@hidden)
2. Re: Pantone Huey: Bottom falling out of calibrator market
(t labarbera)
3. Supplying RGB to commercial printers (Matthew Larmour)
4. Re: Pantone Huey: Bottom falling out of calibrator market.
(edmund ronald)
5. Re[2]: Pantone Huey: Bottom falling out of calibrator market
(Peter Karp)
6. Re: TAC 280% (Phil Cruse)
7. Re: Supplying RGB to commercial printers (email@hidden)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 15:20:41 -0600 (CST)
From: email@hidden
Subject: Profiling a Xerox 3535
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Any suggestions for profiing a connected copier, specifically the Xerox
3535 (doesn't use separate fuser oil)? It's operating under extremely
stable temperatures, and will be calibrated daily. I'm worried most
about
the shifts with toner, and wondering how to mitigate the issues.
Average
five targets across a week under normal use? Should I bother? Thanks!
-- Jeff Harmon
Colorhythm LLC
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:56:18 -0500
From: "t labarbera" <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: Pantone Huey: Bottom falling out of calibrator market
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From: Marco Ugolini <email@hidden>: I see how the low
prices make all these options exciting to the prospective buyers.
But are the results comparable to those achieved with higher-priced
solutions (e.g., EyeOne Display 2, Optix XR)?
As a user of the crt Spyder, works for me. I'd probably call myself a
high-end consumer user printing my own work on my Epson 4000. Would I
like to have/try one of those "higher-priced solutions" Marco mentions
above? Sure...but it's unlikely to happen.
Still, the question remains: what does this do for the "high-end"
consumer?
Gives us more choices and perhaps for those who have not ventured to
put a toe in the color management waters, provides them with a
starting place they wouldn't have had.
I'm most curious about the Spyder2Express David mentioned...I don't
see it on the ColorVision pages for North/South America...
Terrie
http://tlbtlb.com/
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 15:57:27 -0800
From: Matthew Larmour <email@hidden>
Subject: Supplying RGB to commercial printers
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I'm supplying some files for printing in Europe (Germany). The
printer has asked for PDF X-3 files, all images and all vector art as
RGB.
In the listmembers' experience, how common is supplying RGB print
files to printers in North America or abroad?
Thanks,
Matt Larmour
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 01:34:35 +0100
From: edmund ronald <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: Pantone Huey: Bottom falling out of calibrator market.
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I think Mr. Tobie has hit the nail on the head -but then ColorVision's
strength has always been marketing.
As Mr. Tobie probably means, most people need moderately accurate
color for their moderately accurate screens, and this at a moderate
price :)
Although if I may be allowed a remark for insiders, we in Europe do
not necessarily have the same color esthetics as some programmers in
India.
As for the high-end consumer - well he might get cameras and monitors
with better color out of it, as more and more people become able to
compare what they have to what other people have ;)
Edmund
Still, the question remains: what does this do for the "high-end"
consumer?
Allow them to get their customers, clients, associates, and students
to
calibrate their screens... for consistancy across the board.
C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Unit
Datacolor Inc.
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 08:58:50 +0100
From: Peter Karp <email@hidden>
Subject: Re[2]: Pantone Huey: Bottom falling out of calibrator market
To: colorsync-users <email@hidden>
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From: Marco Ugolini <email@hidden>: I see how the low
prices make all these options exciting to the prospective buyers.
But are the results comparable to those achieved with higher-priced
solutions (e.g., EyeOne Display 2, Optix XR)?
As a user of the crt Spyder, works for me. I'd probably call
myself a high-end consumer user printing my own work on my Epson
4000.
I'm curious which version do you use? The "old" Spyder or the newer
Spyder2? That makes a difference -- at least for me.
With kind regards
Peter
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:30:48 +0000
From: Phil Cruse <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: TAC 280%
To: email@hidden
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Hi Graeme
It may be easier for you to create a brand new Output Profile with
the EXACT TAC and black characteristics that you require. I'll
contact you offline.
Good luck
Phil Cruse
Graphic Quality Consultancy
www.colourphil.co.uk
On 18/01/2006, at 15.08, Graeme Bulcraig wrote:
Elie,
How does your plug-in allow me to limit (change) the total ink in
the file, whilst still using the same icc profile and conversion?
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 05:44:21 EST
From: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Supplying RGB to commercial printers
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I'm supplying some files for printing in Europe (Germany). The
printer has asked for PDF X-3 files, all images and all vector art as
RGB.
In the listmembers' experience, how common is supplying RGB print
files to printers in North America or abroad?
Being a printer in the UK its most likely the best way - we will then
convert them to CMYK using a European Profile ( sheet fed is usually
ISO Coated -
if u print SWOP profile in Europe CMYK greys come out pink.
Peter
the other way is to get them to send you their profile - if its ISO
coated
and their presses match the ISO Coated proofs - u should be able to
set your
proofer up with the profile and see what u should get
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