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Re: Who does the seperations?
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Re: Who does the seperations?


  • Subject: Re: Who does the seperations?
  • From: Roger Breton <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 13:15:37 -0500

Ray,

> A photographer shot a transparency.

In itseld, the transparency is a wonderful way of "porting" colors. It
carries both the medium itself and the desired colored appearance -- ICC
profiles will never top that double functionality.

> A prepress house made separations (film and proof) knowing the press and
> paper that was going to be used.

For some assumed conditions.

> The printer printed the job and matched the proof.

To the best of its ability.

> The Ideallience has set a standard for shipping photographic files.  It
> is RGB not CMYK.

I wasn't aware of that one?

> The only person who can do a good separation is the person who knows the
> characteristics of the press, paper, and ink.

Agree.

> So I ask...Should the photographer make a separation?

Back to early-binding vs late-binding workflow discussion, it seems. I'll
say, provided this person has enough understanding or knowledge of what's
coming down the road, as in, presumably, some international standard of
printing, separatins can be made at that stage. In a way, this is no
different from a prepress or photoshop retoucher or some Prinergy process
template doing the same thing downstream, at the printer.

It seems, it's more important what aimpoint should be used than used than
the timing of who does what.

> When did it become the photographer's job to do separations?

When photographers started to learn more about color management than
printers. It's a shame but that's how it is.

Keep in mind the shitload of image banks and commercial libraries, like
DigitalVision, who ship entire collections of images in CMYK form -- with no
ICC profiles attached.

> Who has all the information to do a top notch separation?  Is it the
> photorgrapher or the printer?

I don't want to make generalizations but I'm not so sure where the real
color management expertise lies these days. True, not all printers are
created equal, nor all (digital era) photographers created equal.

> What happened to the prepress house and their highly skilled scanner
> operators and separators?

Slowly but surely becoming a thing of the past. You know this better than me
:(

> Ray Maxwell

Best wishes,

Roger Breton  |  Laval, Canada  |  email@hidden
http://pages.infinit.net/graxx


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