Re: Accurate color from the camera - who wants it!
Re: Accurate color from the camera - who wants it!
- Subject: Re: Accurate color from the camera - who wants it!
- From: Andrew Rodney <email@hidden>
- Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 08:31:05 -0600
- Thread-topic: Accurate color from the camera - who wants it!
On 7/13/07 7:23 AM, "email@hidden" wrote:
> That is the rub, except for art reproduction no one *really* wants accurate
> color throughout the image, they want pleasing color. Even in advertising
> where a product may need to be accurate, the rest of the photograph doesn't,
> and probably is not.
Most users say they want accurate color (not pleasing color) when of course
they don't. So Karl's paper, and the off-white, semi-tech paper I referred
to from the ICC are important so that end users understand what it is they
are asking for correctly.
That's what upsets me most about many of the current color management ads.
They all say, "Buy this product and get accurate color" which is BS. Its the
modern marketing slant on "push button color" that caused so many problems
when color management was very young. Its the wrong message because its a
big fat lie.
We'll probably never get the marketing folks to stop this but we can get end
users, especially photographers and image creators to understand that, in
rare cases do they really want accurate (colorimetrically correct) color.
They want pleasing color, color that represents the scene as they hope to
reproduce it (output referred) on all kinds of different output media.
> Historically, Kodachrome, Velvia, etc were manipulated by the pros to give the
> color they wanted. That is both the beauty and ugliness of RAW.
Or in camera JPEGs. Anyway, most image creators have an idea of what they
wish to express and the question becomes, do they have the tools to do this?
In the past, we had a small palette of color films to pick from (ugh,
Agfachrome). Today with Raw, and good tools, the possibilities are huge.
> We tend now to get a host of images that are hyper colorized, which while
> individually may be interesting/attractive, as a body of work they tend to
> make my eyes tired of looking at them.
One man's hyper-color is another's idea of perfection. There's still a great
deal of art in the rendering process and while I may not prefer how someone
renders their image, its their image. So like all art, we need to be
sensitive to but not necessarily like what we are provided.
Andrew Rodney
http://www.digitaldog.net/
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