Re: RAW Developers (was: how not to contribute to this forum)
Re: RAW Developers (was: how not to contribute to this forum)
- Subject: Re: RAW Developers (was: how not to contribute to this forum)
- From: "Bob Frost" <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 13:04:18 +0100
John,
I think the OP meant
fantastic in the sense of "outstanding" in how RAW Developer's rendering
is
reminiscent of film, not "fantasy-like" or unreal.
Lorenzo,
Fantastic color rendering to me is precision (accuracy) and detail, not
oversaturated colors.
Mmm! The word 'fantastic' apparently comes from the Middle English
'fantastik' meaning 'imagined', and from the French word 'fantastique'
meaning 'imagined', and from the Latin word 'phantasticus' meaning
'imaginery', and from the Greek word 'phantastikos' meaning 'able to create
mental images'.
In current usage it apparently means (according to my dictionary):-
quaint or strange in form, conception or appearance
unrestrainably fanciful, extravagant
bizarre in form or appearance
strange
unreal
based on or existing only in fantasy
AND it can also mean:
wonderful, superb, or remarkable.
So I hope you can see why I interpreted it the way I did.
John,
In fact, comparing ACR's rendering to that of RD, sometimes the ACR result
seems unreal (as in color contrast & saturation more like Velvia than
Ektachrome)...
I've done some fairly accurate comparisons of images of ColorChecker shot
with a D2x and D200, with the actual values of the ColorChecker as measured
with an i1, and ACR 3.7 (default mode) beat all five color modes in Nikon
Capture and NX for overall accuracy (average delta). Not compared any other
raw developers though.
Bob Frost.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John W Lund" <email@hidden>
To: <email@hidden>
Cc: "Bob Frost" <email@hidden>
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: RAW Developers (was: how not to contribute to this forum)
On 7/13/07, "Bob Frost" <email@hidden> wrote:
But I don't want 'fantastic' color!! I want the nearest we can get to
accurate color. Then, if I wish, I can play with it and make it as
fantastic
as I like, or not. But it is very hard to get back to near-accurate if
all
you get is 'fantastic' color to start with.
Bob Frost. (who hated the fantastic color of Velvia)
-- Bob, I think you might have misunderstood.>
In fact, comparing ACR's rendering to that of RD, sometimes the ACR result
seems unreal (as in color contrast & saturation more like Velvia than
Ektachrome)...
Regards,
John
JWL Images
Emeryville, CA
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