Re: Apple/Adobe Imaging, DAM and Workflow
Re: Apple/Adobe Imaging, DAM and Workflow
- Subject: Re: Apple/Adobe Imaging, DAM and Workflow
- From: "edmund ronald" <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:12:11 +0200
I'd agree that here on this list we're arguing about the top 5% -
everything else is dealt with already, mostly.
All the big vendors -Adobe, Epson, HP, Nikon, Canon, Capture One- now
have what are fully workable turnkey solutions in the photo market,
which are effective for many, and I think any responsible consultant
accepts this.
- For printers, it is clear that canned profiles are mostly ok, when
you have them. All my clients use third party papers and request
profiles for these.
- For screens it's sadly obvious that canned profiles are as of now
mostly hopeless, but with one or two over-marketed exceptions
calibrators work as sold.
- For cameras, default calibration is good enough unless you have
trained eyes. If you have trained eyes you will get uncomfortable with
default renderings. We can argue about how this can be solved.
But the search for better quality in the top 5% will continue to keep
us in the money. In the print business the top 5% are the mgazines
with the luxury adverts. In the camera markets it's the prosumer SLRs.
To wit, 95% of cameras are point and shoots, but we don't sell
consultancy to those guys. I suggest we concentrate on our target
market and agree that Adobe and co. are serving the medium range very
well already.
Edmund
On 7/17/07, Andrew Rodney <email@hidden> wrote:
On 7/17/07 6:07 AM, "edmund ronald" wrote:
> Last, not least, if some topics keep coming back again and again, and
> elicit such strong responses, it means that they are really of concern
> to the community and will not go away after personal scores have been
> settled.
There's the community of users who's experience with technology is very
important to these discussion. Then there are vendors who sell solutions,
like those which build camera profiles that would rather not have the
community of users discuss or argue the points since it affects their sales.
Such lurkers are usually less interested in discussing actual results or the
experience of the market (like the huge number of users of Aperture, LR and
CR that don't find the need to build custom profiles) and prefer to use
personal attack where these topics are being discussed. Can't really blame
them. If I actually stopped telling people to try using the canned and
excellent Pro Epson profiles built in the US instead of automatically asking
for a custom printer profile, I'd have a few more bucks a year to pay for
dog bones. Bottom line is, these profiles are really good and few need pay
for custom profiles for the same papers and pro printers.
Andrew Rodney
http://www.digitaldog.net/
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