This is not HBO
This is not HBO
- Subject: This is not HBO
- From: Marco Ugolini <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:06:43 -0700
- Thread-topic: This is not HBO
In a message dated 7/17/07 5:07 AM, edmund ronald wrote:
> Jack,
>
> As far as I'm concerned, everything goes except personal attacks. If
> the guy's positions displease you, and he reiterates them, you're free
> to hammer them down again :)
>
> As far as I'm concerned, Andrew is a first rate and knowledgeable
> exponent of the state of the art as it is commercially practiced.
> While I greatly respect his point of view regarding print profiles, I
> happen to disagree with him on camera profiling and Raw workflows, a
> topic of which I have some experience both as a consultant and as a
> photographer. However I find that discussions with Andrew serve very
> usefully to hone the arguments with which to convince others.
>
> Last, not least, if some topics keep coming back again and again, and
> elicit such strong responses, it means that they are really of concern
> to the community and will not go away after personal scores have been
> settled. These image format issues will continue to fester until
> consumers send a strong message that formats should be open. Wasn't it
> a huge benefit to the camera industry that every camera could take 135
> film, and every lab could develop it ?
>
> Edmund
>
> On 7/16/07, Jack Bingham <email@hidden> wrote:
>>
>> Now this is what I'd call accurate! It is unfortunate to be having
>> these kinds of discussions on forums like this. It's also unfortunate
>> that this particular type of discussion has taken place on several
>> forums I have spent time on and used to contribute to.
I fully agree with Edmund on the issue of rules of behavior.
Also let me make a brief and concise point here: passionate delivery does
not per se an insult make (and if Andrew's passion is interpreted by some as
insulting, I suggest that *they* revisit their definition of what
constitutes "insult", because Andrew is always *this* side of the manners
divide -- more than can be said for others).
But clear and unequivocal insults ("bitch", "shill", etc.) can *never* be
justified on this list, even by poorly-conceived "passion".
In case some didn't notice, *this ain't HBO*. Want "rich" language? Watch
the Sopranos, or Deadwood. Want to be a professional? Clean up your act.
Either we are adults here, or a bunch of out-of-control bullies taking
swings at one another.
Which will it be?
Marco Ugolini
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