Designers, Color Management, and Xrite , some thoughts and comments.
Designers, Color Management, and Xrite , some thoughts and comments.
- Subject: Designers, Color Management, and Xrite , some thoughts and comments.
- From: "email@hidden" <email@hidden>
- Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:30:36 -0400
Hi to this group,
First, Let me say I will miss Marc Levine. He understood the issues and
he tried hard to point a way to solutions. He will be missed by all of
us here.
Now on to the subject of color management and some of the issues Andrew
Rodney brought up.
For those of you that own a few macs with a couple of printers, I'd
like to ask you all, how's that working out for you? How about a single
mac with two printers? How about a Mac with OsX 10.4 sharing a printer
with a Mac with OSX 10.5.? If you can't take the same image on two
computers and print to the same printer and get the same output
(assuming you get any output at all) how can you even start to consider
color management as a viable technology? Microsoft Vista simply solved
the problem by forcing you to go get new printers and then basically
ignored color management entirely, but atleast the images all looked the
same when printed from different computers...
Now go out and buy Adobe CS3 Suite Dejour...and Light room . Print an
image from light room and save it as a tif file. Bring the tif file
into Photoshop and then print it. Bring the image into Illustrator and
try printing it. Assuming that you were even able to get a print from
each of the applications, you will see real differences. Here is the
company that, in my opinion, saved color management with Photoshop 6 and
7. I'm not being sarcstic, here, Adobe made printing using color
management a reality, IN ONE APPLICATION. From what I see as a consumer
who understands a bit about color management, they have successfully
undermined their own execellence and product interoperablity, by not
having a common print architecture between applications.
So we see two distinct issues here:
1. The interface between the OS, color management, and the printer is
broken (this again assumes that you can even print, meaning tht the
interface between the printer and the OS is broken)
2. Within a single suite of applications from a single dominant, and
excellent, vendor, the print workflow is different.
Andrew, if our software is brain dead, it is because the patient's heart
has stopped pumping. Either of the two issues I mentioned above make it
difficult to provide a meaningful solution to the consumer. When
combined, the two issues represent an absolute dead end as far as
success is concerned. As you said, we can generate great profiles, the
real problem is what does anyone do with them?
As a member of the ICC, I have brought this point up and asked that we
get the print vendors together with the OS vendors and try to come to
some recommendations in this area. I believe it is on the agenda for the
Tokyo meeting in June, but I do not hold out much hope for change.
From the standpoint of useful color management, the incompetence has
reached a nadir. The ICC has provided a working framework and it has not
been implemented in any meaningful way for the consumer. Technologies
such as PDF/X provides a glimmer of hope for the professional, but for
the consumer and pro photographer, it is not a good time to be involved
in color. Just ask Marc Levine.....
Regards to all
Tom Lianza
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