Re: Designers, Color Management, and Xrite , some thoughts and comments.
Re: Designers, Color Management, and Xrite , some thoughts and comments.
- Subject: Re: Designers, Color Management, and Xrite , some thoughts and comments.
- From: Andrew Rodney <email@hidden>
- Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:51:38 -0600
- Thread-topic: Designers, Color Management, and Xrite , some thoughts and comments.
On 4/18/08 3:30 PM, "email@hidden" wrote:
> Print an
> image from light room and save it as a tif file. Bring the tif file
> into Photoshop and then print it.
Tom, I can print from Lightroom and Photoshop and both match exactly but
that's not always the case due to what driver you might be using (which may
be your point). Under Leopard, you must have Leopard drivers for this to
happen (so if your point is, there's a disconnect between the print path in
PS and LR, you're right and that's an issue). Its an issue Adobe is aware of
and working on.
> From what I see as a consumer
> who understands a bit about color management, they have successfully
> undermined their own execellence and product interoperablity, by not
> having a common print architecture between applications.
Not to defend Adobe, they too have to work with the print vendors and OS
vendors. But I'd agree, every Adobe application should treat the same RGB or
CMYK numbers identically.
> Andrew, if our software is brain dead, it is because the patient's heart
> has stopped pumping. Either of the two issues I mentioned above make it
> difficult to provide a meaningful solution to the consumer.
My comments were not at all directed at printing. In fact, in the one
comment, it was about how I think X-Rite failed to do what it set out to do:
make color management easier for the end user by redressing i1 match, trying
to get consumers and designers to have to deal with something as unnecessary
and complex as picking a TRC gamma setting to calibrate their displays. That
has of course nothing to do with printing. I agree, printing is a mess.
Lightroom is a step in the right direction in that a print template can
store all kinds of useful info (including the output profile). So I think we
should keep each topic separate; how damn complicated it is to print and how
X-Rite didn't push the envelope of ease of use for the market they were
targeting.
We could discuss what I think was a dangerous move on X-Rite's part instead,
by mucking around with Photoshop's defaults. I don't think its any more
appropriate for you guys to alter settings in an Adobe application as Adobe
has to alter your settings. And the likelihood that every 18 months, what
you've done will likely break is an issue I suspect you'll face, an issue
that only negatively affects the customer. But that's yet another
discussion.
Andrew Rodney
http://www.digitaldog.net/
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