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Re: Designers... Apple, international standards
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Re: Designers... Apple, international standards


  • Subject: Re: Designers... Apple, international standards
  • From: Jan-Peter Homann <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:34:42 +0200

Hello all,
sRGB and Gamma 2,2 are referenced in a bunch of international standards for digital imaging.
( e.g. IEC 61966, several Video standards, W3C recommendations for color display on web pages etc.)


The Mac Gamma of 1,8 in combination with non configurable colormanagement settings in Mac OS X an several Apple applications is a color management catastrophy.
Every professional Mac user in the digital imaging area, who wants to work according open international standards must avoid Apple applications or Mac OS X colormanagement on system level.
The best way to be compliant to international standards on Mac OS X is to use applications, which use only the monitor profile specified in Mac OS X and which completely ignore colormanagement on Mac OS X level.


But Apple makes it it quite hard for software vendors to avoid Mac OS X system level colormanagement. Look e.g. at all the problems we have currently in colormanagement for the print path with e.g. Adobe CS 3...

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How it could be changed ?

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I see the need for the ICC to define guidelines and testprocedures for the colormanagement interaction of the OS, applications and printer drivers according international standards. Please note, that the ICC is now open for membership of individuals fo a fee which every serious colormanagement consultant could pay.

Tom Lianza: I would be glad to see X-Rite leading such an initiative at the ICC
(See You on the ICC GASIG list ?)


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There are also several Open Source activities discussed at the OpenICC mailinglist and the OpenICC wiki for transparent colormanagement between OS and applications based on international open standards.


If Apple and Micosoft don“t produce the colormanagement OS platform we need, we should help the people willing to do this...

Tom Lianza: Sponsoring 4 or 5 Open Source Initiative with an i1 pro would be very helpful. Also better solutions for using X-Rite instruments under Linux are very welcome. Edmund Roalnd had discussed this topic in detail with the relevant people form the LINUX colormanagement community.


Regards Jan-Peter





Nipat Paiboonponpong wrote:
--- "email@hidden" <email@hidden> wrote:

With
respect to the Mac, I can't argue with his logic. Gamma 1.8 is Apple's
burden and it becomes our burden as well.


Now Andrew, if you want to get rowdy and start
laying into marketing folks, why not go up to Apple and tell them what
they need to do so we can all use Gamma 2.2...


Regards,
Tom

I don't know if it will happen soon. I think it's related to marketing and politics. I still remember that iPhoto (6) would always assign CameraRGB to any file with sRGB specified in its EXIF.
On the other hand, files with other colour space specified in the EXIF's were respected.


Gamma 2.2 is PC. sRGB is PC. It may be too hard to swallow by Apple.

Regards,
Nipat
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