RE: Colour management and photographers - another perspective.
RE: Colour management and photographers - another perspective.
- Subject: RE: Colour management and photographers - another perspective.
- From: Paul Foley <email@hidden>
- Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:39:30 +1000
Original message
I only used the targets that Gretag gives you with the Eye1 -a large one
with two pages of squares and a small one with fewer squares. I used the
large one, taking care to go slowly so it would have enough time to read
the colors accurately. Can't unfortunately remember if I used the
default or the large profile, or if those options were available then.
After working on it for about a day and a half I dropped it as the
canned profiles were giving me more consistent results and well, life
goes on and other stuff has deadlines.
I basically threw this experience in printer profiling in with the
abysmal experience I had had with the PrintFix product. The results from
that product were totally horrific and completely unusable so I figured
this was just more of the same even if it was quite a bit better. Just
more time wasted that had to be made up somewhere else.
Which brings me to the opinions expressed in another thread about an ad
agency that used old tried and true methods to get their prints out the
door with short time frames, rather than rejig their workflow to follow
proper color management protocols. I think products have to get
demonstrably more reliable and predictable and actually really do the
job they claim to do before new processes can take over. It's hard to
invest lots of time, pushing back deadlines thinking you will regain
that time with the newer and better workflow, only to have to spend
weekends away from your kids (or whatever the rest of life is for you)
in order to catch up again to where you were before.
Sorry, getting grumpy in my old age, Andy
Hi Andy,
The set up I purchased is the Spyder Elite and Spyder Print package. I
use the paper profiles for my own art prints on a Canon iPF8100. I use
the Expert large target (to make it a bit easier for my old eyes to
see) which prints 729 colours on a big single sheet. I also use the
Extended Greys target (another 200 plus squares) and have the software
combine the two. To my eyes and for my prints I have noticed a big
difference from the canned profiles and from some targets that I
printed out and had profiled by a paper supplier in the US. This is
especially true for the RGB B&W files.
I have found it very easy to misread a square but with practice and
patience I am improving. I may never use the hardware and software to
it's fullest capabilities, however, I now have more control over the
colours the printer produces and the freedom to try different papers
without the disappointment I usually experienced with those first few
dozen or prints while I fiddled with the image files to get the
canned profiles to "work".
In the past I have sometimes given my commercial clients some
printouts to show them how the colours look on my monitors. This was
to stop them fiddling with the files ( on their usually uncalibrated
monitors) before they handed them to the printers. While I don't call
them proofs I will also feel more confident about this now that I
making my own profiles.
The decision to continue with having profiles made or to go down the
path of making your own is now not a decision based (as it was for me)
on the cost of the software/hardware. It's all about the quality/
value of your profile supplier and whether the cost/control benefits
of doing it yourself outweigh the time commitment. I think it's great
to have the choice.
Cheers
paul
PS
if that's grumpy, Andy, I don't think you'll be in need of anger
management any time soon ;-)
Paul Foley
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