Re: PS CMYK Conversions
Re: PS CMYK Conversions
- Subject: Re: PS CMYK Conversions
- From: sfprintservices <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:18:22 -0700
- Thread-topic: PS CMYK Conversions
Hi,
Edmund, you are right, I do need to explain this better. Thanks for the
input.
I apologize in advance for the long winded response.
Of course embedding a profile would create fewer variables for the end user.
There are at least 2 problems with embedding a profile.
1. Which profile do we embed for cmyk work USWebCoatedSWOP v2,
WebCoatedSWOP2006Grade3, GRACoL2006_Coated1v2, or some variation of FOGRA?
We never know what type of output will be used; digital, web offset,
sheetfed, large format inkjet...
2. There are 100+ designers in multiple studios just in the US, there are
several more studios overseas.
90% of these designers feel if they are being billed out at $100 - $300 per
hour they do not have time to worry about production details (like if their
wonderful design can be reproduced in a variety of environments). They want
a seamless workflow that does not distract them from their creativity or
delay their deadlines.
Please no flaming here, I have heard all of the reasons why we should be
better controlled but, as long as the studios are being profitable they will
not change.
The way we have gotten around having multiple color profiles used in the
same design (AICS defaults to Emulate Adobe Illustrator 6.)is that we setup
common color settings for the Creative Suite. Basically North America
Prepress 2, and then push those settings to all the users when we remotely
install their apps.
All users should now be using the same color settings. They do not have to
think about embedding a profile or even what color profile they are using.
They soft proof and print without converting to any other profile.
When they save their files the color profiles are assumed. When they hand
the files off to other designers here or at other studios they are seeing
the same color.
When they print their first and second level "proofs" they are seeing the
same color.
Since SWOP v2 and Adobe 1998 are the defaults in North America, we can be
fairly confident the images and designs will not be too far out of gamut of
too most output devices.
When they hand off the files to the end user, they can usually reproduce our
color without trying too hard to figure out what profile we used to create
the file.
Would we like to give users an expanded color space like
GRACoL2006_Coated1v2 to work in? Sure, and as soon as Adobe gives us color
settings using that profile in their apps we will use them.
This is our default workflow, and if an end user gives us their press or
proofer profiles we can adjust the workflow for that particular client.
Any thoughts on changes to this way of doing things are welcome.
Thanks,
Gary Scott
Landor Associates
> From: edmund ronald <email@hidden>
> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 02:25:32 +0200
> To: Gary Scott <email@hidden>
> Cc: ColorSync <email@hidden>
> Subject: Re: PS CMYK Conversions
>
> Maybe you should explain this better: Why is assigning an Adobe
> profile better than embedding one of your own ?
> Does conversion between CMYK spaces have any meaning whatsoever ?
>
> Edmund
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