Re: Colorsync-users Digest, Vol 5, Issue 275
Re: Colorsync-users Digest, Vol 5, Issue 275
- Subject: Re: Colorsync-users Digest, Vol 5, Issue 275
- From: Mike Strickler <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 09:29:04 -0700
My point was that this is something we should all be questioning, and
I'm glad to see some thoughtful responses. I could take a stab at
your points below:
1. Printers are not in the same situation today: You're not getting
your seps in the form of film, or CMYK files, from prepress shops
anymore, but from creatives. It makes a lot less sense now to trust
what you're getting. Whether you feel the displacing of liability is
an adequate justification is an individual matter, but it seems open
to question.
2, 3, 4. Note that my original comment used the word "images." It
still makes more sense to insist all vector content be in device
color, especially considering that spots are often part of the
original specification. No one is advocating otherwise--I hope. But
there should be little problem with CMYK + spot documents containing
placed RGB images, as log as you have the InDesign or Quark document
and all the linked images to go in and work on. Then just update the
links. If you're set up to take only PDFs from customers, well, you
can still convert the RGB, en masse, but you won't have the same
opportunity to tune the images before converting--but at least the
correct profile will be used.
As far as efficiency is concerned, yes, this stuff takes a little
time, but somewhere, someone has to properly edit the images and
convert them. I merely pose the question, who should this be? You as
the printer must also ask, Who pays for this?
Mike Strickler
MSP Graphic Services
423 Aaron St. Suite E
Cotati, CA 94931
707.664.1628
email@hidden
www.mspgraphics.com
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 08:48:34 -0500
From: "Richard Apollo" <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: PS CMYK Conversions
To: <email@hidden>
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Maybe we
should also discuss when, where and by whom this work should be done,
and why so many printers are still asking for CMYK images from their
customers...
Well, there are a couple of reasons:
1) Printing happens in CMYK, not RGB. It is/was more efficient for
us in the print world to have the images all ready in CMYK.
2) You end up mixing color modes. You've got images in RGB, there
is black text throughout, maybe spot colors... Mixed color pieces
are much more difficult to deal with.
3) PDF workflow. Take the mixed color bag, roll it into a PDF and
the complexities compound.
4) There's the question of limited liability. If/when they don't
like the print, folks are quick to point a finger. If we in
prepress haven't done anything to the files then it's easier for us
(and the whole company) to avoid blame.
5) Oh, yeah - there's the bit about being inherently evil and all.
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